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Classic Revival 13 20.00%
DRB 18 27.69%
G Force 4 6.15%
Harrison 20 30.77%
Python 5 7.69%
Race Car Replica 2 3.08%
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:06 AM
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Thanks Mike. It's not painted in those pic's (still not today), It is as out of G-Force mould and buffed with cutting compound. Apparently their new body is even better. A few blemishes though, if you look close you can see the door skins are concave.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:11 AM
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Good call Dave and Mike,
I thought it was just a **** slinging match by OZCOBRA but it looks like it has settled down a bit. My build is simple. I Have thought about all ways to get a Cobra in my garage since 1988 when I first saw one. The opportunity arose though a mates misfortune and I was offered an unfinished or should I say a rolling chassis kit in 2003.
I knew nothing about building cars and less about bumpsteer, suspension geometry, correct shape,nothing, but I had a Cobra kit in my shed at long last. It is an Evans kit and has its faults but anything can be rectified along the way but after three and half years of building and three and a half of driving with a few track days and Shelby Fests and Nationals trouble free under it's belt, I am proud of what I have sitting here.
So Tone pick any kit and build it, whats right with one with be wrong with the other. The thing I wished I had would be able to contact the supplier but Evans had gone out of business when I started so that would be a big thing in my view. Go for it.
F#%k I sound like the JD's have cut in!
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I don't have an attitude problem...you have a perception problem!....I like that QUOTE......Certainly no sh!t slinging mate...Just sharing the love that abounds in this wonderful community!!!

The problem here alot of the time is that people are too scared to voice it honestly so they are not the one who OUTS the bad dealing or the bad design they are all happy to chime in once somebody else does it just in case they bump into them at the Nationals.

For warned is for armed and if guys are shelling out 10,20,30k for a kit and they get a little dirt about the dealings of certain individuals so be it..it might potentially save them some heart ache down the track.

...pick any kit and build it, whats right with one with be wrong with the other..and the more wrongs or the erks that annoy people in their cars maybe the new buyers down the track will have a better overall product to chose from.
.. as VICTOR pointed out he bought the car and then found out about the shape issue and said WTF, now if he had the same information that Tony has got from the replies in his poll thread VICTOR might well have bought another Cobra and not his DRB..in the end VICTOR loves the car he has!!!......

.....and Tony might yet buy a DRB



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Dave it looks pretty good and the specs read impressive. When I bought my RMC my engineer cringed and said I have bought a lemon, like the crown chassis version. When he came over to inspect the chassis he was relieved to see that it had a double rail chassis. Not the single rail that was on the original RMC's. He explained that the bending and torsion test would not pass a single rail chassis in NSW and also commented that the crown chassis had to be modified so that would create more engineering problems for NSW ICV standards. That was the first of many hurdles that I had to jump...that one was easy. I congratulate you on producing a fine looking and performing vehicle.
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Any coments about the DAX ,My brother Micheal built his.Was red and a bigblock.Was sold to some chap in Melbourne.Hey David yours is nice.Well done.
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Any coments about the DAX ,My brother Micheal built his.Was red and a bigblock.Was sold to some chap in Melbourne.Hey David yours is nice.Well done.
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How Long ago???I know of 2 Red Dax's both Big Blocks.
One I see regularly at the Cafe I frequent.

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How Long ago???I know of 2 Red Dax's both Big Blocks.
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About 3 years ago, had a 460 in her, the chap drove up to redcliffe and took it back on a trailer,
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OK OZ, we know the DRB body shape is off, it's been discussed before. Tell us about your Homebush. Pros-Cons etc
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There's always entertainment in a bit of slinging, maybe this ones gone a bit off topic. We all agree there's issues with every kit, some body shape, some with build difficulty, some with poor suspension geometry.

Like BJ's say's, you can overcome a lot of this, if you have the patience, skills, and determination. If not, useful feed back as Mike says, is always valuable to someone starting with a clean slate. I think Tone should have asked for this instead of a poll judging the kits. I hope there's some good info for you Tone.

Even with the skills I have, to have completed mine from a basic body and chassis, with no instruction manual and NO INTERNET, was not too difficult, however next time even I would probably choose something that was well thought through, and with readily available bits, like Harrison or maybe CR, I think G-Force MKII is still worth a look also. There are however a couple out there that have not kept up with R&D and body quality.
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Hi Dave

thanks - I have got some useful info - most of it confirms where I was leaning. One car I had not looked into is 'Python' - I will do a bit of research there too now.

The poll was meant to be a bit of fun - but does point me in the same direction as most of the comments really.

Maybe I should start a 'Chev or Ford donk' poll???



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Old 05-25-2010, 05:29 PM
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Mike,
At the moment I have 2 Homebushs ...1 a complete roller I bought off Fleabay 8mths ago(bargain priced)...The other is a COMPLETE BODY around 6yrs old.. at the at the moment sitting on what was a RCM chassis that has been completely re-jigged...this is going and a purpose built space frame not too far removed from a JBL on its way!!

Reasons for the Homebush fascination....

*Pricing was Great!!!!
*Body was being produced By a Well known and
* MINIMAL body prep on his bodys and re-enforced in stress areas upto 10mm.
*Inner guards and Boot are formed and finished well though front inners are profiled for his Torana based Chassis.
* Styling..
*Wheel arches have a nice formed lip.
*Though one of the Vent holes is around 30mm out of posi to the other side,I have corrected.
*nicely shaped HardTop available.
*NO build manual as such ...
*No real support except for a phone call to Mr. Crane and a willingness to answer any query!...With Doug Pearce about anything is fixable!!!

*2nd Car Chassis..

* is Torana based Ladder /Spaceframe.
a good geometry to work with.(Peter Duncan's SNAKEN seems to suggest it's a good platform to work with!)
*Live axle rear.

So I hope this MEETS the definition of constructive INPUT..

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Mike,
At the moment I have 2 Homebushs ...1 a complete roller I bought off Fleabay 8mths ago(bargain priced)...The other is a COMPLETE BODY at the at the moment sitting on what was a RCM chassis that has been completely rejigged...this is going and a purpose built space frame not too far removed from a JBL on its way!!

Reasons for the Homebush fascination....
*Pricing was GREAT!!!
*Body was being Produced buy a well known an respected Fibre-Glassing Bussiness (30 +yrs)
* MINIMAL body prep on his bodys and re-enforced in stress areas upto 10mm.
*Inner guards and Boot are formed and finished well though front inners are profiled for his Torana based Chassis.
* Styling..
*Wheel arches have a nice formed lip.
*Though one of the Vent holes is around 30mm out of posi to the other side,I have corrected.
*nicely shaped HardTop available.
*NO build manual as such ...
*No real support except for a phone call to Mr. Crane and a willingness to answer any query!...With Doug Pearce about anything is fixable!!!

*2nd Car Chassis..

* is Torana based Ladder /Spaceframe.
a good geometry to work with.(Peter Duncan's SNAKEN seems to suggest it's a good platform to work with!)
*Live axle rear.

So I hope this MEETS the definition of constructive INPUT..

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OZCOBRA, that roller sounds like the one that JC was duped on? Blue with white stripes from memory.

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OZCOBRA, that roller sounds like the one that JC was duped on? Blue with white stripes from memory.

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/blog...=recent&page=2
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Hi guys, new guy here and without hijacking the thread, I have a question or two for you.

I'm an Aussie living in Houston Texas and am looking at building a Cobra. I'm debating (for now) on a Lone Star Classics 427 or Factory Five Mk IV. They both seem to fit my budget. I really like the Lone Star because the company is located 4 hours up the road from me (but I will say they seem difficult to get a hold of over the phone). But I really like the FFR Mk IV because I've called them once and got a bunch of help from them already, and for the price, there is more included in the kit.

Anyway, opinions on the two kits would be most welcome and I would really like to hear from any Aussies who've imported them into Aussieland, and how you went about fixing the steering. Oh yeah, please feel free to mention anything that may help me decide between the two.

My plan is to build the kit here, drive it for several years on the wrong side of the road and then bring it back home to Aussie paradise, and most probably NSW.

Well, I sure appreciate any replies I get, and thank you in advance.

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Welcome Mike,

Have a look at the thread a couple of posts down on the Australia forum about importing. There is a link in one of the posts.

I think if you own it there for a while and drive it around it makes it easier. You need to check if it needs to comply with the effective ADR's for its age. That could make things difficult for you. There are some people on here that have done it who should be able to give you some advise.
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Hi Mike

there is a guy in WA who has just received delivery of his FFR Mark IV kit - you might be able to follow the build on the FF forum too and see how he goes with ADRs, etc... ZeustheDog.

here is the link if it works...
http://www.ffcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248262

Best of luck with your decision. Sounds like the level of customer service might be an issue... it seems to be a plus for FFR according to that forum.

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Hi guys, new guy here and without hijacking the thread, I have a question or two for you.

I'm an Aussie living in Houston Texas and am looking at building a Cobra. I'm debating (for now) on a Lone Star Classics 427 or Factory Five Mk IV. They both seem to fit my budget. I really like the Lone Star because the company is located 4 hours up the road from me (but I will say they seem difficult to get a hold of over the phone). But I really like the FFR Mk IV because I've called them once and got a bunch of help from them already, and for the price, there is more included in the kit.

Anyway, opinions on the two kits would be most welcome and I would really like to hear from any Aussies who've imported them into Aussieland, and how you went about fixing the steering. Oh yeah, please feel free to mention anything that may help me decide between the two.

My plan is to build the kit here, drive it for several years on the wrong side of the road and then bring it back home to Aussie paradise, and most probably NSW.

Well, I sure appreciate any replies I get, and thank you in advance.

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Was it from up Sydney way from a greek named George?

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