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Aussie Mike 06-29-2010 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Cobber* (Post 1061559)
Whatever floats your boat.

Oh what a feeling......

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...IMGP3230-1.JPG

Sacrilege!!! It's not even American!!

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

Good looking setup there Cobber with plenty of performance too no doubt.

Cheers

*Cobber* 06-29-2010 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike (Post 1061560)
Sacrilege!!! It's not even American!!

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

Good looking setup there Cobber with plenty of performance too no doubt.

Cheers

Why does it need to be American? AC originally used a Pre war German BMW design engine.

On the outside it looks like an old car but underneath it has a modern engine with adjustable traction control, launch control and flat shift. 500hp for around $6k.

Aussie Mike 06-29-2010 02:27 AM

I'm just stiring what will probably turn into another opinionated farce of tha thread. I have no problem with a Toyota, BMW, Mercedes or even a Briggs and Stratton engine. Build it your own way, that's part of the fun.

Merv and Sharon 06-29-2010 02:32 AM

I like the Briggs and Stratton Mike!

Another Ford, as usual ...

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...otor_done1.jpg

750hp 06-29-2010 02:49 AM

Tenrocca's the only one with a truly authentic car... ;)
(Standard disclaimer - a winking face at the end of a sentence generally implies a level of sarcasm that some might not have otherwise picked up on...)

For the rest of us, build what floats your boat. If I wasn't such a fan of the sound of a high revving V8, I'd buy one of these for my next Cobra...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Falcon-FG-Tur...4#ht_500wt_928

Light, inexpensive, lots of room to widen the footboxes, heaps of power and torque with potential for unbelievable horsepower. Who's first to go this route...?

Zedn 06-29-2010 03:06 AM

I think its funny people think these cars a ford. All ford did was supply a driveline. The car is made by AC and Carol Shelby.

I will be putting a chev in mine mainly because i think they are a better, smaller, cheaper engine. Personally i dont care what motor people put in them, its all about someone building their own car they want. Who cares what anyone else thinks.

I dont see anyone installing the original suspension or brakes either. Why would you unless you are building an exact replica.

When my car is finished the only thing that will resemble what Mr Shelby created will be the body, but then again that was AC.

Does anyone ever talk about building cars these days?

Beejay 06-29-2010 03:51 AM

The decision to go for a Chev was easy for me, having said that if a Ford engine was available at the time for similar cost, size, performance and emissions I would have been happy to go that way.

I find it interesting that so many Ford hot rods have Chevs fitted but no one seems to care.

I know of a couple of Chev powered Cobras that sold very quickly at over $70K this year, so no real issue with resale values as far as I can see. A well built car will always get the bucks no matter what is under the bonnet.

Ben

stiffy 06-29-2010 04:52 AM

Ford V Chev
 
I have one of each.

The Ford was purchased as is ( except for the pretend supercharger noise )
and I had no option with the Daytona, it was Chev or nothing! space and Rego were the issues.

I love them both, the Cobra pulls like a 14 year old boy in 1,2,3,4th and the Daytona is more refined ( so far ) new CAM might change that :3DSMILE:.

The cars are fake so why not put what you want in it ( so long as its a V8/V10/V12 IMO )


STIFFY

Wazza 06-29-2010 05:31 AM

I'd be happy with any good quality V8 for a Cobra.

I'm also a "One of Each" club member.

The 347 Windsor (Three meetings old ) kept up with a 400rwhp /800 kg Race Cobra on the weekend at Queensland Raceway....really happy with it's grunt.

If the straights were longer, it would have got away I'm sure....

And the new street Cobra ( Being Painted today !!! Yaaaayyy ) will have the LS7....this also should have some real punch.

Either one does the job I hope.

Cheers,
Warren

albanycobra 06-29-2010 07:29 AM

Paul's ( Heidleberg) SPF has one of the nicest chev fitments I have seen. With the rocker cover mods he had done and a few other bits aswell has converted me to a believer. If I built a Cobra I would fit Chev power.

TUF-427 06-29-2010 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 750hp (Post 1061564)
Tenrocca's the only one with a truly authentic car... ;)
(Standard disclaimer - a winking face at the end of a sentence generally implies a level of sarcasm that some might not have otherwise picked up on...)

For the rest of us, build what floats your boat. If I wasn't such a fan of the sound of a high revving V8, I'd buy one of these for my next Cobra...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Falcon-FG-Tur...4#ht_500wt_928

Light, inexpensive, lots of room to widen the footboxes, heaps of power and torque with potential for unbelievable horsepower. Who's first to go this route...?

Craig I know of somebody thats been throwing the idea around......;)

LoBelly 06-29-2010 09:05 AM

As a youth had a 6cyl Charger - was fun upsetting the HQ set with the 327/350 chevs (& matching mullets ;) )

did consider a six for easy emissions...

found this on yootooob (below)
1163hp @ 6500rpm (streuth)

When I first started to build my Cobra I was startled to find that people put chevs in them.

I thought - aren't we all ford guys here?

Then after a while on the forum I found that my beloved windsor was considered second rate by the big-block crew.

Of course amongst them the guys with the 385 series know they have the better donk - but the FE blokes reckon the 385 mob are soft.

The 'true' cobra guys have FE's (not 390s but you get a pass)

Naturally there is a hierarchy of FE's - clearly 427's are superior to 428's

But of course when it comes to 427's a side-oiler is superior to a centre oiler

Now there are a number of different head castings that ...



LB

Rob. Smith 06-29-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon (Post 1061556)
But he didn't use it.

Didn't Chev tell him to rack off ?

Outwest34au 06-29-2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twig (Post 1061510)
How,and I know there are plent of that you,do you blokes justify putting the arch enemies engine in a Cobra replica????


But how do you get your head around it!!

Practicality, size, rego, weight and cost all factored in to my decision.

I paid about $5K for brand new L76, loom and ECU. That affordability made my plan to build a real possibility.

I lamented similar feelings about running a cheb to a local guy here before I purchased an engine, his response was "Paint it blue, shut the bonnet and just drive it, who's gonna care."
At the end of it all I'll just be happy to have built a car the looks not unlike an AC Cobra, sounds nice, cheap to run, goes as quick as Kevin and delivers 100 smiles per hour.

Twig 06-29-2010 05:13 PM

Thanks guys!!
 
Great feedback!!

*Cobber* 06-29-2010 05:45 PM

There you go put in whatever you like it makes no difference in Australia to re sale value, a nice cobra is a nice cobra.

My brother in law in the UK works for VW and has a new VW V10 twin turbo diesel from a Toureg sat on a pallet, how about bolting that to a Territory AWD set up and dropping a body shell over the top?

Ant 06-29-2010 06:09 PM

Chev or Ford engine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexnut72 (Post 1061533)
If it is an original car I can see the blasphemy.

On a replica, it is never going to be an original, so why worry? Do you have a Salsbury rear? Armstrong shocks? Girling brakes? What brand are your gauges? How many gears are in your trans? What is the name on your fuel pump? Is the body made out of Aluminum? Do you have a 90" wheelbase? Round tube chassis? Is the body an exact copy or just "period correct" or something that might be an MG (or Healy or a Cobra or a ...)? So many places you can go wrong that no one seems to make a fuss about.

If you are trying to build an exact replica, good on you for choosing a Ford engine. If it isn't exact, why stress about where the engine came from? Does it make the car go and put a smile on YOUR face? Do it!

I had one with an LS7 454 GM and man did that snort, if I was doing mine again I would go with a 505bhp Corvette engine and get between 25 - 30mpg and still have all the power I need, what swayed me was my intention is still to classic race this car and the GM engine just makes it harder now to get into some events. Size of engine is important and the modular Fords are very wide so the Chev is a better choice and has more performance with aftermarket cams and valvetrain items that give upwards to 600bhp.

I think there is possibly more resale in having Ford but if the car is well built I would say a GM engined Cobra would still attract good money as most of them here in NZ are poorly finished etc etc!

My car is all Ford with Jerico trans.

Gav 06-30-2010 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob. Smith (Post 1061672)
Didn't Chev tell him to rack off ?

They certainly did.
Something about already having a sports car I think.

Merv and Sharon 06-30-2010 03:56 AM

I am thinking that there may be a reasonable limit to the horsepower 'race' for street Cobras. They seem, in my admittedly limited experience, to reach a point where bragging rights can be obtained about huge horsepower, but the driveability of the vehicle may well be compromised. For racing, the story may be different, but I note the regular success there of the smaller capacity Toyota motor as well.

stephen low 06-30-2010 03:56 AM

Can't recall which State you were in but here in Victoria regardless of motor I understand you have to now run through an emissions test.

Would make even a AU 5L a cheap option if the Ford donk is your preferance.

I was always one for a Ford donk but then my timing allowed me to fit an AU 5L using it's own emissions compliance to pass.

If I'd only the 5.4L Ford option back then I too would probably have looked seriously at the Chev options.

Matter of personal choice.

Cheers


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