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Merv and Sharon 06-30-2010 03:01 AM

A Cobra builder here up the road from me, just got a perfect Ford AU 2002/3 motor, gearbox, full harness and ECU for well under $3,000.

Aussie Mike 06-30-2010 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon (Post 1061826)
I am thinking that there may be a reasonable limit to the horsepower 'race' for street Cobras. They seem, in my admittedly limited experience, to reach a point where bragging rights can be obtained about huge horsepower, but the driveability of the vehicle may well be compromised. For racing, the story may be different, but I note the regular success there of the smaller capacity Toyota motor as well.

I reckon that limit is around the 400RWHP mark. Looking at the times at the nationals and Shelbyfest and you will often see that big HP doesn't equal big performance. The guys that work on the whole package are the ones at the front of the pack.

Twig 06-30-2010 05:28 AM

Thanks Guys.
 
The required power to weight ratio is very interesting.

Growing up in Echuca a mate of mine by the name of Jim Verrall had a 289 Robnell with a top loader and a jag rear.Now I may have been young but by God the thing used to throw you back in the seat!!!

I don't know if it ever happened but Jim had genuine dry sumped injected 302 Gurney Eagle he was going to put in the car. It was a beautiful engine.

With low vehicle weight I reckon engine torque is the key,not hp.

Cos thats what puts you back in the seat!!

StewbieC 06-30-2010 07:47 AM

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The guys over here have the same discussions week in week out.

I'm going old school.

Xavier 06-30-2010 08:24 AM

How do you justify it?

- Immediately have parts you have familiarity with and a possible inventory of.
- Save 10% to 40% nearly on every part.
- Do not care what other people think.
- At worse case you keep your hood up and still 50% (at least) of the on-lookers could not care less and do not know a Ford from a Chevy engine nor care about the herritage.
- Simply keep the hood down and it still looks beautiful.

I am not for it, it would trouble me more than it would anyone else, but certainly it is very simple to justify.

BBfangs 06-30-2010 02:23 PM

For me it is familiarity of engine and parts, performance I want, and I built it for me and my wants, and like it was said before, even if you have a ford engine in your car, there are a lot of owners that have parts in other areas of the car that weren't in the original AC specifications. So why does the make of the engine bring so much attention? I appreciate (may not be what I like but) all builds if it makes the owner happy. As for resale value, yes, I think having a ford base will bring a bit more return but it is an acceptable trade off for me. This is similar to a thread I started not too long ago about a disgusted spectator.

john chesnut 06-30-2010 04:45 PM

I have always loved the Cobra shape. I also love the new Corvette engines, drivetrain and suspension. I scratch built my replica and used the complete drivetrain, suspension from a 2003 Z06 Vette. I changed the diff from having a transaxle into accepting a driveshaft and went with a T56 6 speed. Although not authentic in any way I love the way the car drives and handles. It also gets 33mpg on the highway. It's also plenty fast. I say if you aren't building an exact replica build it the way you want! It's all good.

Beejay 07-02-2010 02:32 AM

One thing that amazed me when my car was finally on the road is that 90% of people have no idea what kind of car it is!

Out of that 10% who do know what it is, about half of them might actually care what is under the bonnet. Most of them are more interested in how big the motor is, not what brand.

I just assumed that everyone knew what a Cobra was, and the history behind them, but I guess we must be in the minority to pour so much money and time into a classic car.

Ben

Rob. Smith 07-02-2010 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Beejay (Post 1062258)
One thing that amazed me when my car was finally on the road is that 90% of people have no idea what kind of car it is!

Out of that 10% who do know what it is, about half of them might actually care what is under the bonnet. Most of them are more interested in how big the motor is, not what brand.

I just assumed that everyone knew what a Cobra was, and the history behind them, but I guess we must be in the minority to pour so much money and time into a classic car.

Ben

Classic statement Beejay ! I've had mine registered for ages, unpainted and ugly...still building and improving. When I drive it (usually for rego tests and test drives) nobody looks at it. One comment from a HQ ute driver "geeze it's ugly mate". I've also had to explain what , how and history of the Cobra to many people who don't have a clue what the car is. Like you said only 10% know and they DO ask engine size first. I don't know what they say when someone says "It's a chev not a Ford".....mines a ford ;)

steeler 07-09-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by john chesnut (Post 1061976)
I have always loved the Cobra shape. I also love the new Corvette engines, drivetrain and suspension. I scratch built my replica and used the complete drivetrain, suspension from a 2003 Z06 Vette. I changed the diff from having a transaxle into accepting a driveshaft and went with a T56 6 speed. Although not authentic in any way I love the way the car drives and handles. It also gets 33mpg on the highway. It's also plenty fast. I say if you aren't building an exact replica build it the way you want! It's all good.

I have a Ford in mine, but I do agree with this comment - "I say if you aren't building an exact replica build it the way you want! It's all good".
After all it's your car! :)

Juggernaut 07-09-2010 05:12 PM

I have a Ford engine in mine but I feel that I don't have to "justify" to anybody anything about my Cobra.

I built it for me, NOT for anyone else and it turned out exactly the way that I wanted it to.

Rob. Smith 07-10-2010 03:43 AM

There's a bloke in California that likes to upset the Cobraphiles with his version of a Cobra.
It's got a 1200cc boxer Vee Dub engine in the back.

andyl 07-10-2010 02:33 PM

So who is going to build the first Aussie hybrid or all electric one ? **)

Mbechmann 07-10-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by andyl (Post 1063942)
So who is going to build the first Aussie hybrid or all electric one ? **)

How about the one I am building - with an aircooled vw bus engine in it :)

Mbechmann 07-10-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob. Smith (Post 1063877)
There's a bloke in California that likes to upset the Cobraphiles with his version of a Cobra.
It's got a 1200cc boxer Vee Dub engine in the back.

Mine will be a 2 liter vw bus engine :)

Legless 07-10-2010 03:11 PM

Nah Andy ..........that's just plain wrong.

However if someone does feel the need to build one they'll definately need one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo %/

"Q" 07-11-2010 12:15 PM

Availability, cost, just wanting something different, what ever makes you happy...
 
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...ine_bay_12.jpg
A Blinged Chevy Engine.

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...n_a_blower.jpg
Something different in a Chevy guise

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...Engine_bay.jpg
Bulls horns look on a Chevy

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...M5_powered.jpg
Clean looking M5 BMW V8

"Q" 07-11-2010 12:46 PM

... and because it could fit in.
 
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../383_Blown.JPG

Like being Stroked and Blown!!!

Rog246 07-13-2010 04:42 AM

You know this is a bit like all them Bogans who put Chev badges on their Holdens !!
I tell you what, they arc up when you get an pld smart arse like asking...."whatsmatter ! Doncha like your "olden" mate ?" Whaddu ya mean ? 'Well it ain't no F@#king sh!tbox Chev is it !!
Normally at about this point I'm asked very impolitely " if I like sex & travel !"
(for those who aren't sure it really does mean F--K ORF )
LOL
Rog

tomcat racing 07-13-2010 05:33 AM

or the stroked and blown ford version
 
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d..._COBRA_021.jpg http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d..._COBRA_022.jpg


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