Airbag question - Sideshow?

[Zedn]

The RTA is not forcing airbags. They are requesting compliance to ADR10/02. There is no manufacturers of aftermarket components that can provide test results for this standard. I have checked with all major steering wheel companies and they can only provide test results for ADR10/01.

ADR10/02 is based on UNECE R12 rev 3 and requires steering columns to undergo testing for column displacement, body block and head form test. I have only been able to get test results for the first 2 and not the head form test. I have spoken to MOMO, Autotechnica and Isotta.

Caterham in the UK have a boss that complies with test results, but they use a specific steering column. The only way to use their setup is to use the entire system. Thats fine with a clubby but a cobra is much heavier, especially without power steering.

As most new cars have airbags they are exempt from ADR10/02 as they comply with ADR69.

I believe all other states accept ADR10/01.

[Philm]

I find that we tend to lose sight of what we are doing here. We are enthusiast’s not budding car manufacturers.
I can understand and welcome the commitment to improving safety and the impact on the environment with noise, emissions, brake performance etc etc.
However this issue of air bags/ steering wheel impact, only affects the driver of the vehicle. If the driver is fully aware of this condition then they can make the decision to drive the car.
I feel that we need to lobby for concessions were we are able to revert back to ADR10/01.
I don’t agree with the hoon tag we get, nothing can be far from the truth, we are typically a community of people over 35 years of age, and there cobra is a significant and valuable part of their “wealth”. We are not the people in Macca’s car parks doing burn outs or street racing down Parramatta RD, It is almost embarrassing but the most common use of a Cobra is cruising down a good road with your partner in the passenger seat meeting up with some friends for a cuppa and a scone.
Where is the data that’s proves or shows a problem we have with safety, I am sure this data would actually help our cause.
I don’t this we need to take on the RTA with the ADR fight, as this will create a Cobra I would not like to own.
I feel this is a personal thing, what right do the RTA have in not allowing me to enjoy a hobby, yes I will make sure it doesn’t impact on society, but I would not like that choice made for me.
The day all cars are scrapped because a new ADR is brought in is the day I will concede the fight is over. So while it is perfectly legal for me to dive my splitty, without seat belts or air bags then just leave us alone.

Phil

[Zedn]

Originally Posted by Philm

I find that we tend to lose sight of what we are doing here. We are enthusiast’s not budding car manufacturers.
I can understand and welcome the commitment to improving safety and the impact on the environment with noise, emissions, brake performance etc etc.
However this issue of air bags/ steering wheel impact, only affects the driver of the vehicle. If the driver is fully aware of this condition then they can make the decision to drive the car.
I feel that we need to lobby for concessions were we are able to revert back to ADR10/01.
I don’t agree with the hoon tag we get, nothing can be far from the truth, we are typically a community of people over 35 years of age, and there cobra is a significant and valuable part of their “wealth”. We are not the people in Macca’s car parks doing burn outs or street racing down Parramatta RD, It is almost embarrassing but the most common use of a Cobra is cruising down a good road with your partner in the passenger seat meeting up with some friends for a cuppa and a scone.
Where is the data that’s proves or shows a problem we have with safety, I am sure this data would actually help our cause.
I don’t this we need to take on the RTA with the ADR fight, as this will create a Cobra I would not like to own.
I feel this is a personal thing, what right do the RTA have in not allowing me to enjoy a hobby, yes I will make sure it doesn’t impact on society, but I would not like that choice made for me.
The day all cars are scrapped because a new ADR is brought in is the day I will concede the fight is over. So while it is perfectly legal for me to dive my splitty, without seat belts or air bags then just leave us alone.

Phil

All true Phil. Perhaps it can be added to the ADR plaque that is required.

At this stage no exemption has been granted.

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by Philm

It is almost embarrassing but the most common use of a Cobra is cruising down a good road with your partner in the passenger seat meeting up with some friends for a cuppa and a scone.

Phil

....Yes well there were a few who said it was like that following you on the track.......and Sundays events reinforced it!!!..

[Philm]

The scones were burning had to get them out of the oven quick.