Rotary Wiper Switches

[Merv and Sharon]

Where can you buy rotary wiper switches, similar to the OEM ones I believe, (below) for Lucas two-speed wiper system. I have looked through the usual sources at AES, Europa and Finishline and didn't see these.

[Zedn]

WIPER SWITCHES UNIVERSAL 2 speed and washer funtion | eBay

[Merv and Sharon]

Thanks Liam but I wanted the ones that look a bit more OEM, without the washer function.

[Maurice Butler]

try xm xp falcon, the American cobras went that way after getting sick of lucas stuff

[Merv and Sharon]

Most of the ones here were white. Wonder where they got the ones in the photo above?

[Mando]

Hi Merv, try Tony Branda in Altoona Pennsylvania or Cobra Restorers in Kennesaw Georgia.
Good luck.


Regards.

[Rog246]

Merv, try car Builders Solutions in the UK, they have all sorts of good stuff
here's a link Car Builder Solutions | Kit Car Parts | Car Building Parts | Kit Car Accessories | Car Building Accessories | Kit Car Spares | Car Building Spares
Rog

[Rog246]

Merv, try car Builders Solutions in the UK, they have all sorts of good stuff
here's a link Car Builder Solutions | Kit Car Parts | Car Building Parts | Kit Car Accessories | Car Building Accessories | Kit Car Spares | Car Building Spares
Rog

[Merv and Sharon]

Thanks Mando. They have this at Cobra Restorers: Cobra Restorers

I guess it is for a Lucas 2 speed but the knob to match does not show as available. SPF seem to have one however, if it fits. I thought this would be easier on the replica market!

[Merv and Sharon]

Thanks Rog - checked them earlier. Lots of good stuff but ...

[FWB]

Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon

Thanks Rog - checked them earlier. Lots of good stuff but ...

Cole-Hersee has a good selection of wiper switches with or without washer function. You may have to buy one of their retro switch knobs but you should be able to get what you need. a supplier will be the biggest hurdle i would imagine. their catalog is available online in PDF format

fred

[sjp]

If you check the parts for sale on this site I have one for sale with the correct knob, I think it is cheaper than cobra restorers. Good luck.

[Merv and Sharon]

Thank you all gentlemen. I also had an email from Roger and it lays out interesting options. It seems that any original style rotary switch will not work with the two-speed motors we now have (2 speed plus 'park' function). He suggests:

1. Get the OEM 2 speed square motor and goofy wiring harness and pay through the nose for an OEM switch and knob.

2. Use the later motor with toggle switch, cheap, easy, works great (I HAVE THIS NOW)

3. Use the later motor (I HAVE) with 2 speed switch and add a relay circuit to simulate what would have been - add the OEM plastic knob.

So I may be getting a modern two-speed, OFF/ON/ON rotary switch and buying an old style button!

[FWB]

cole-hersee has both types of switches designed for systems with or without integral motor park.


Switches designed to work with dynamic park motors: the PARK wire is blue.
Typical switches:
75600-01 12V DC, controls two motors,
75602-02 24V DC, controls two motors,
75600-02 12V DC, controls one motor, Packard 6-way,
75600-05 12V DC, controls one motor, Packard 4-way,
75600-07 12V DC, controls one motor.

7-way connector Switches designed to work with non-dynamic park (or coast-to-park) motors: the PARK wire is green.
Typical switches:
75601-02, 12V DC, controls two motors, Packard 8-way,
75601-08, same as 75601-02 without knob

Electronic switches have 7 leads ( 2 red leads). Microprocessor based Windshield Wiper Switches can work with both types of motors. They have 6 leads.
Typical switches:
75600 12V DC, with 8-way Packard connector.
75600-04 12V DC, with 6 wire leads
75602-04 24V DC, with 6 wire leads.

[FWB]

75221-06 is no washer switch, for dynamic park motor.

Rotary Switches & Headlamp Dimmer Switches | Specialized Application Rotary Switches75221-06 | Cole Hersee - Littelfuse

[KevinW]

I guess you are looking for the correct OEM-style fluted knobs.
Well, I organised a group buy for the wiper and panel switches for a bunch of UK guys, I can tell you it wasnt the most enjoyable experience of my life.

Car builder solutions WONT be able to help you. Nor will Europa, or Finnishline or lots of other places.
There are some early Jag XK knobs that look a bit similar, but they arent the same thing.

Cobrarestorers sometimes has something useful, but often the knobs arent engraved.

Gerry Hawkridge at Hawk cars (UK) can sometimes supply these, but couldnt when i ordered mine.

ERA will supply, but it depends who you talk to. I got told yes they would, then someone else got an emphatic NO! for non-ERA cars.

In the end I found Superformance would supply. Hooray!
But oh boy, oh boy.....
If they have what you want in stock, bite their hands off and get it.

If they havent, and you really want the parts, then your troubles have just beguin....be prepared for months, and I mean months and months and months and months of delays and problems. wrong parts sent (for which I had the pleasure of picking up the import taxes) incorrect instructions, you name the problem, I had it. It seems everything is made in South Africa, and the SA factory has its own ideas about when it decides it will get out of bed, oh, and , er , let the customer know if anything is going to happen.... anytime soon.

the only saving grace was that Dave Cope at SPF was patient and conducted himself in a professional manner through many tel calls and emails.

btw if you order the fluted knobs do yourself a favour, and get yourself original NOS Lucas switches from Holden in the UK or go to a car boot sale , or check out e-bay (btw the land rover Lucas wiper switch always on e-bay it seems, with a push-to-wash facility is unlikely to work). there are absolutely loads of switcches with multiple outputs - for wipers you need an On-On-Off set of connections. the shafts will fit, and its a hell of a lot better than using epoxy to fix a halfround shaft in a hex shaped hole... which is what most switch shafts are like.

So there ya have it.... enjoy.

.... spleen emptied....... and thank you!

[Merv and Sharon]

Thanks! This could be the one. Will check it out against the toggle switch terminals.

[FWB]

the motor should be 3 or 4 wire depending on if it grounds to case or a wire for ground. 1 hot for low speed, 1 hot for high speed,1 hot for park. the switch has a hot lead on the off position, when it is energized it feeds a ring in the motor with a slot missing in it that's how they stop. so i would look at the motor and not worry so much on the existing toggles....

fred

[Merv and Sharon]

Fred and Roger - thanks for the emails. It seems then, that these later two-speed motors have a switch internally to Park and "Off' and that the toggle switch and rotary switch need to be ON/ON/ON therefore. It also seems that there was never a rotary switch on a Cobra with two-speed wipers that did that as standard. I will then need a modern switch that has all three 'hot' positions and a fluted knob to suit.

Rotary Switches & Headlamp Dimmer Switches | Specialized Application Rotary Switches75221-06 | Cole Hersee - Littelfuse

[Merv and Sharon]

Really Liam's suggestion of the hot rod one (WIPER SWITCHES UNIVERSAL 2 speed and washer funtion | eBay) seems cheapest with a knob fitted. The ones pictured in the first post are from and ERA and are not available separately, I believe. Lots of fluted knobs around in yacht shops and electrical stores.