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09-15-2013, 03:57 AM
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As the man said "you decide if your willing to pay $50k for a 10th/sec all up $150k"...... NO!!!!!
Until you've driven both??...... I reckon the GTS is the winner all round!! 
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09-15-2013, 04:20 AM
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Agree.
You can buy TWO GTSs, and still have $50k left over.
One is the latest fastest toughest Holden EVER built, and the other looks like all the other wanna-bee Merc drivers.
What Merc driver would ever really drive it hard anyhow?
VF GTS with 430kw from factory? How long before they get 600kw?
Remember the start of LS1 in Australia, we had 225kw, current tuners can get about 70% over that.
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09-15-2013, 04:13 PM
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How much of those extra $150,000 dollars are government import taxes?
Does anyone know?
Just asking if this was done in Germany, would the German commentator be saying the price difference is only $50k? ...and that $50k is justified, to avoid the - how do you say in German "plasticy interior" of the Holden, and the prestige of the Merc badge?
For that money Nissan's R34 anyone?
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09-15-2013, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimis
How much of those extra $150,000 dollars are government import taxes?
Does anyone know?
Just asking if this was done in Germany, would the German commentator be saying the price difference is only $50k? ...and that $50k is justified, to avoid the - how do you say in German "plasticy interior" of the Holden, and the prestige of the Merc badge?
For that money Nissan's R34 anyone?
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Don't think u have been able to buy a new R34 for about 8 years?
R35 I think is the one you are referring to... Engine needs to be rebuilt very 80,000? K due to ceramic bores among other things... |
09-15-2013, 05:15 PM
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How much of those extra $150,000 dollars are government import taxes?
Does anyone know??
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If they pay anything like Chrysler 2.5>3%.... They pay absolutely nothing compared to the man on the street!!!
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09-15-2013, 05:02 PM
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Re the R35 rebuild at 80k: it ain't so. I've got one!
E63S in the USA is about $93K, about $AUD100K.
E63 AMG Luxury Sedan Sports Car | Mercedes-Benz
LCT would be 33% of the value above $59K or so = about $15K.
It's Mercedes ripping off Aussies.
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Reason: Bad maths!
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09-15-2013, 06:49 PM
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Re the R35 rebuild at 80k: it ain't so. I've got one!
E63S in the USA is about $93K, about $AUD100K.
E63 AMG Luxury Sedan Sports Car | Mercedes-Benz
LCT would be 33% of the value above $59K or so = about $15K.
It's Mercedes ripping off Aussies. |
So with no home ground advantage and on neutral territory - They are about the same price then? In which case, am I to presume most would go the Merc? ....and the smart money the "R-not-quite-34" R35?
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Don't think u have been able to buy a new R34 for about 8 years?
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haha... thanks for the pick-up. Fat fingers on an iphone...  .
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09-15-2013, 07:13 PM
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So with no home ground advantage and on neutral territory - They are about the same price then? In which case, am I to presume most would go the Merc?
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Not this Patriot!!!... From the showroom to Gary at Chev's down here and hello baby  !!!!!!
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09-15-2013, 07:35 PM
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OZ,
Enjoy the beast... it certainly puts to shame my daily driver (aka: the-wives-hand-me-down-sh!t-box). Best of luck with it, I hope it serves you well, with many trouble free miles and smiles...
PS: Just please tell me your buying it in manual... I'll think less of you otherwise 
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09-15-2013, 07:54 PM
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oh dear ....same ol problem ,keep chev an ford kiddies out of the same sand pit.....doc
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09-15-2013, 10:21 PM
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Look at the scoreboard Dim Sim 
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09-20-2013, 12:37 AM
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The other supercharged HSV with 463rwkw
The other SC HSV |
09-20-2013, 12:56 PM
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Sorry to say, but doesn't compare to a factory built car.
Factory built cars WILL always win in the financial return stakes.
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09-20-2013, 05:26 PM
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And believe me you can have your GTS with a tune and prob near on identical numbers ....at not far above the loaded Harrop price tag give or take a couple of grand!!!!
.... at that level there is plenty of movement for them to deal $$$$$.
Yeah right $25k less than the GTS!!!.....only if your going to be walking and bending over for the dealership too rape you!! 
But all the same the Harrop car is a great piece of kit!!!
They do some amazing stuff.
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09-20-2013, 06:18 PM
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Yes, that's right.
No comparison really,  .
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09-20-2013, 09:46 PM
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Damm..K'eight (my daily drive...a boosted E3 Walky HSV senator) has been busted. This upgrade is also available on the E2/E3's through Walkinshaw performance...Steve Bennet at Oztrack is the NSW distributer dealer for this and the fit up is done by Maroon and the lads at Race Solutions Penrith.
Those numbers are pretty on the level for the Harrop 2300 cc charger, with cam, plus 100 lb injectors, MAFless tune, walky headers,cat plus pipes, driveline/diff warranted upgrade and the OTRCAIS.
Gaz does raise a valid point in terms of resale, however, I would add, not meaning to upset the masses, is.... who cares, once you have driven this as a daily that behaves well in traffic in the loungeroom like comfort the senator provides.....you will get it...more than happy to test and evaluate against the new factory GTS if the opportunity provides....noting the value highlighted by d488y2's post. All Performance at a buttons push as well.
But to put it in club context...Even as a Ford Cobra configuration puritan my self...this GM combination in a Cobra would be Amazing. |
09-24-2013, 06:48 AM
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Have just got off the phone with a car mate of mine and he tells me his son. inlaw has just picked up their new VF R8 from his tuner and
Get this APS adapted Twin Turbo only a mere 700KW... I think is somewhere in the versinity of 950Hp and his bloody family car the Mrs will be driving the kids to school in it while his on the Rigs!!!! 
More money than
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09-24-2013, 03:05 PM
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I was at APS yesterday getting my GTS looked at. Found out it had bad fuel and a very dirty Air Filter. Luis the tuner reckons any V8 with a Supercharger is a good thing!
APS can't wait to get their hands on the new VF GTS!
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