Absolute Pace

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Forums > Australian Cobra Club

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
April 2024
S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30        

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #101 (permalink)  
Old 11-10-2009, 05:28 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Katanning, WA
Cobra Make, Engine: DRB540
Posts: 6
Not Ranked     
Default

I've ordered my DRB, got my donar car, built my dream shed and am trying to find out how to register to build and license the thing. Would you know anyone to talk to regarding getting the DRB540 registered in WA as know on seems to know. thanks.

Last edited by fox123; 11-10-2009 at 05:32 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #102 (permalink)  
Old 11-10-2009, 06:25 PM
400TT's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gold Coast, AUS
Cobra Make, Engine: Wish I had my own PACE 427
Posts: 2,145
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WKB View Post
At the double lane change testing earlier this I heard the handling of the DRB540 made a lighter popular V8 powered kit car, which was also doing the same test, look pretty ordinary.

Warren
Pure propaganda. Why do they even bother. They are talking about an RCR-40 as we shared the track for lane change testing. I will quite happlily put an RCR-40 up against a DRB540 on the track with same HP, same tyres, same driver. But it's pretty obvious the vehicles are designed for different purposes. Actually I will put up any RCR against any DRB of the same spec. As manufacturers we have both taken different engineering approaches and as a result different performance outcomes and most likely appeal to different types of buyers.

We don't even support the Boss 540 engine in any RCR due to the weight, size and location penalty associated with it. But as stated above our vehicles are designed with different goals in mind.

But don't take this as a slur on the DRB 540, it's built for a specific purpose and specific market. One of the key designers & builders of the 540 kit now works for RCR, so we know more about the 540 than most.
__________________
www.absolutepace.com
Reply With Quote
  #103 (permalink)  
Old 11-10-2009, 06:26 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Katanning, WA
Cobra Make, Engine: DRB540
Posts: 6
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
thanks ac-460

had a talk to battens performance tuning and drp today

talked with battens about their inlet manifold which is similar design to mine but lower (a shame seeing mines already flowed and match ported to the heads)







and drp about their kit and the possibility to have them raise the scoop to accommodate the charger setup under and they will look at it for me , they have asked for pic of the motor and height dimension

so all the gear i have that was going to go in to the 77 fairlane may go into a drp-540



now to work out which path to go down

now heres another question are you guys running the air bag setup in the dash ??
i was told buy the licensing group over here in w.a. that i could do the fairlane but
a. had to run emissions
b. no moving parts of the charger out side the bonnet
and c. unless i could prove the proper/safe working of the air bags they had to be removed - ie crash a few with the evidence the airbag system worked correct in that vehical
Finally someone from WA. I've ordered my DRB, got my donar car, built my dream shed and am trying to find out how to register to build and license the thing. Would you know anyone to talk to regarding getting the DRB540 registered in WA as know one seems to know. thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #104 (permalink)  
Old 11-10-2009, 11:32 PM
albanycobra's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Perth, wa
Cobra Make, Engine: Pace Alumina 427 #69
Posts: 1,615
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Pure propaganda. Why do they even bother. They are talking about an RCR-40 as we shared the track for lane change testing. I will quite happlily put an RCR-40 up against a DRB540 on the track with same HP, same tyres, same driver. But it's pretty obvious the vehicles are designed for different purposes. Actually I will put up any RCR against any DRB of the same spec. As manufacturers we have both taken different engineering approaches and as a result different performance outcomes and most likely appeal to different types of buyers.

We don't even support the Boss 540 engine in any RCR due to the weight, size and location penalty associated with it. But as stated above our vehicles are designed with different goals in mind.

But don't take this as a slur on the DRB 540, it's built for a specific purpose and specific market. One of the key designers & builders of the 540 kit now works for RCR, so we know more about the 540 than most.
And when you're finished with the RCR you can flatten it like an empty Coke can and put it in the recycle bin like a responsible person should.... Sorry just stirring....
__________________
RF12 414 Windsor 8 stack ,6spd, Avons
Reply With Quote
  #105 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 01:25 AM
400TT's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gold Coast, AUS
Cobra Make, Engine: Wish I had my own PACE 427
Posts: 2,145
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by albanycobra View Post
And when you're finished with the RCR you can flatten it like an empty Coke can and put it in the recycle bin like a responsible person should.... Sorry just stirring....


If it wasn't for everyone recycling those aluminium cans, there wouldn't be any RCR and DRB 540 chassis material.
__________________
www.absolutepace.com
Reply With Quote
  #106 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 02:46 AM
albanycobra's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Perth, wa
Cobra Make, Engine: Pace Alumina 427 #69
Posts: 1,615
Not Ranked     
Default

No insult intended, I was just surmising to how much alloy content was in an RCR.....
__________________
RF12 414 Windsor 8 stack ,6spd, Avons
Reply With Quote
  #107 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 03:11 PM
boxhead's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Alice Springs, central Australia, NT
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic revival kit (CR3181), gen III engine, T56 6 speed box, AU XR8 lsd diff
Posts: 5,699
Send a message via Yahoo to boxhead
Not Ranked     
Default

I think they could get a couple of LS1 blocks from a RCR40
__________________

Cruising in 5th


---------------------------------------------
Never be afraid to do something new, Remember, Amateurs built the Ark: Professionals built the Titanic.
Reply With Quote
  #108 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 04:38 PM
400TT's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gold Coast, AUS
Cobra Make, Engine: Wish I had my own PACE 427
Posts: 2,145
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxhead View Post
I think they could get a couple of LS1 blocks from a RCR40
As long as it's going to a good cause. We have 3 x LS7's in the shop at the moment. Boy they are popular. One of them is a genuine HSV W427 engine, which is just a 2009 Chev LS7 crate engine.
__________________
www.absolutepace.com
Reply With Quote
  #109 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 04:56 PM
Wazza's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Gold Coast Queensland, QLD
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison#97 LS7 / T56
Posts: 1,681
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 400TT View Post
As long as it's going to a good cause. We have 3 x LS7's in the shop at the moment. Boy they are popular. One of them is a genuine HSV W427 engine, which is just a 2009 Chev LS7 crate engine.
As Homer would say......

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.....LS7....mmmmmmmmm !!

Won't be long now !!!!
Reply With Quote
  #110 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 06:16 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Pattaya,
Posts: 479
Not Ranked     
Default

LS7
Roughly what sort of money are you guys looking at for a full LS7 motor with harness, computer starter etc in Australia now.
Bruce
Reply With Quote
  #111 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 07:41 PM
400TT's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gold Coast, AUS
Cobra Make, Engine: Wish I had my own PACE 427
Posts: 2,145
Not Ranked     
Default

If you wanted to buy one locally here you wouldn't get much change out of $20k with full controller kit, starter etc. The LS7 crate engine comes a little better equiped than the smaller engines. You get exhaust manifolds, clutch & engine mounts.
__________________
www.absolutepace.com
Reply With Quote
  #112 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 08:18 PM
sambo's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison, 6.0L Chev
Posts: 2,513
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 400TT View Post
If you wanted to buy one locally here you wouldn't get much change out of $20k with full controller kit, starter etc. The LS7 crate engine comes a little better equiped than the smaller engines. You get exhaust manifolds, clutch & engine mounts.
Starters, engine mounts, manifolds (that you'll probably discard)... these are $100ish items against the main purchase, you'd have to agree.

Although I'd love to stretch the budget to the 427ci LS7, it's about half the price to fit a cammed 6.0L L98 (no DoD, better heads than LS2). Current pricing would be something like:

L98 crate $5000
Engine/body loom + ECU with no VATS etc $2000
Engine accessories $1000
Starter $130
LS7 clutch from the states $700
Cam + dyno $2000

450+ HP
Reply With Quote
  #113 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 08:35 PM
Wazza's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Gold Coast Queensland, QLD
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison#97 LS7 / T56
Posts: 1,681
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sambo View Post
Starters, engine mounts, manifolds (that you'll probably discard)... these are $100ish items against the main purchase, you'd have to agree.

Although I'd love to stretch the budget to the 427ci LS7, it's about half the price to fit a cammed 6.0L L98 (no DoD, better heads than LS2). Current pricing would be something like:

L98 crate $5000
Engine/body loom + ECU with no VATS etc $2000
Engine accessories $1000
Starter $130
LS7 clutch from the states $700
Cam + dyno $2000

450+ HP
Your right...

But it still wouldn't be an LS7....

Apples and Oranges.
Reply With Quote
  #114 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 08:42 PM
sambo's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison, 6.0L Chev
Posts: 2,513
Not Ranked     
Default

Correct Wazza, the LS7 is a beautiful thing. But I'd say the comparison was more like oranges and mandarins.
Reply With Quote
  #115 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 11:41 PM
Aussie Mike's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sunbury, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Rat Rod Racer, LS1 & T56
Posts: 5,391
Not Ranked     
Default

Rather than an LS7 I'd probably go for an LSX block with CNC ported LS7 heads and after market rotating assembly. You can easily build 454 cubes with this block and make way more of everything in the HP and Torque department for less money.

The LSX block is an GM performance parts iron block that was designed with 2500HP potential

http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/En...166454&engCat=

There's a few shops offering short block and long block options. There'a also a factory crate motor option now for a GMPP LSX 454.

http://www.vetteweb.com/tech/vemp_09...ine/index.html



How does 620 hp and 590 lb-ft of torque grab you?

Unfortunately the 12.5:1 comp means av gas or race fuel only.
__________________
Mike Murphy
Melbourne Australia


Last edited by Aussie Mike; 11-11-2009 at 11:47 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #116 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 11:59 PM
400TT's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gold Coast, AUS
Cobra Make, Engine: Wish I had my own PACE 427
Posts: 2,145
Not Ranked     
Default

Mike that is beautiful.

Sambo, that is a nice Combo. Great value.

You pay more for an LS7, but you also get it back in spades. With an LS7 you get dry sump, ultimate reliability and that terrific deep sound. And plenty of bragging rights and I expect a much better resale value of your Cobra compared to a cammed L98..

Stock LS7's can produce over 450rwhp with the stock headers. And a mountain of torque.

I'm sure Warren will be running those stock headers. They are very nice headers for factory units, stainless mandrel tube internals.

After seeing, feeling and hearing LS7's, I'm unfortunately a convert as well. My next project will have an LS7. I'm not surprised they are so popular with my customers.

We've also got a Katech LS7 custom spec engine in the shop. It's a big dollar engine. I've seen the engine dyno figures and can't believe the HP & Torque, much bigger figures than Mike's LSX. Will see what it does on the dyno.
__________________
www.absolutepace.com

Last edited by 400TT; 11-12-2009 at 12:08 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #117 (permalink)  
Old 11-12-2009, 12:59 AM
Cameron Parsons's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Queensland, Australia, WI
Cobra Make, Engine: Back in the saddle
Posts: 768
Not Ranked     
Default

Alright Craig enough talk about 'the Shop'... photo's please!!

Cameron
__________________
Queensland Cobra Car Club
Wisconsin USA Chapter
ex: Beijing Chapter Member
Reply With Quote
  #118 (permalink)  
Old 11-12-2009, 01:26 AM
400TT's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gold Coast, AUS
Cobra Make, Engine: Wish I had my own PACE 427
Posts: 2,145
Not Ranked     
Default

Cameron I will start a separate thread as this one is really getting off topic. I reckon Warren(WKB) deserves to have his thread back.
__________________
www.absolutepace.com
Reply With Quote
  #119 (permalink)  
Old 11-12-2009, 02:56 AM
Mrs flatchat's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warwick, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine: DRB, FORD 302W,T5
Posts: 487
Not Ranked     
Default

Yeah ! whats all this nonsense about Chevys in Cobras ?? tch! tch!
The DRB 540 is a great cruising car and can even give Porsches a bit of a hurry up.
Warren (WKB) theres a track day at Morgan Park 22/11/09 -- great opportunity for a shake down
Reply With Quote
  #120 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2009, 01:46 AM
WKB's Avatar
WKB WKB is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ipswich, QLD
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison Cobra, SC540 Roadster
Posts: 359
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs flatchat View Post
Warren (WKB) theres a track day at Morgan Park 22/11/09 -- great opportunity for a shake down
Mrs Flatchat,
Your are correct, Morgan Park would be a great opportunity for a shake down, but alas it won't happen.
The construction of the car is complete, I am just waiting for the air con parts and the side windows to become available so I can get them fitted, then the car is off to the painter.

There is always next time.

Warren
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy