The POOL ROOM

[sambo]

Mike - correct. Now if only Jeff was PM... he'd sort this mess out!

[Rebel1]

Mike, you are certainly correct that triple play (your words) is the way of the future. As to when it will happen, or where it sits in the priority queue is debatable.

I'm sure this whole NBN issue was/is motivated by frustration of the government with Telstra and it's monopoly on telecommunications, It's lack of investment to country areas, and total lack of investment/maintenance of the existing copper.

I live in an older established suburb. The copper in our street is at capacity, every line is duplex. When it rains the phones go out. The exchange has only recently had a telstra DSLAM installed and it is only from telstra one can get ADSL2 and it is priced accordingly. What the NBN announcment has done is delay the installation by an alternate ISP to install their own DSLAM.

Sambo, you comments regarding water is a state issue. Up until the last 12 months we also had a serious water supply issue. The State introduced very serious water restrictions, subsidised water tank installation, a water transfer pipeline interconnecting the various dams so water could be transferred from an overflowing dam to a dams at low levels and has built a desal plant.

The largest single improvement to our water shortage was the subsidized water tanks. My home now has 5000Ltrs of tank water plumbed into the toilets and laundry. Our usage of town water has decreased considerably and many, many thousands of residents have the same.

More to follow .......

[Rebel1]

Sambo, Re the Murray. I don't really believe the problem has a long term solution. Leastwise the perceived problem as it stands. That being water for irrigation, recreation and for potable usage.

There seems in every argument that the "food bowl of Australia" is at risk and we'll all end up starving from lack of fruit and vegies. If these crops are so water dependent why not just relocate the "food bowl of Australia" to somewhere where there is abundant water .... Like North Queensland. Heaps of land ... doing bugga all ... and heaps of water.

Problem solved, and no $billion expenditure from the feds or states.

[sambo]

Originally Posted by Rebel1

If these crops are so water dependent why not just relocate the "food bowl of Australia" to somewhere where there is abundant water .... Like North Queensland. Heaps of land ... doing bugga all ... and heaps of water.

But right now the food bowl is nicely positioned between the 2 biggest cities in the country and "food miles" is another consideration. Plus, you rednecks would no doubt water it all down before sending to us, just like your beer.

Edit: Re subsidised water tanks, water restrictions, etc, while I agree it IS up to the states to put plans into action, public apathy isn't doing us any favours - peolpe are happy to whinge but nobody takes an interest in driving the change. There's very little pressure on our state government down here to do anything effective... the last bloke flew around in choppers all day and the current one just wants to build pyramids! So how do you get them to listen?

[Rebel1]

Oi, we don't water our beer. It is the only true quality ale worth drinking.

As to the two biggest cities and food miles. Lets say the feds elect to amortize all the save the Murray cost to every bit of fruit grown in the place. Every grape, every bottle of wine, even cob of corn etc....what would it cost?....you'd never be able to afford it.

Who cares about the two largest cities in Australia?. They are both bankrupt as are the States they exist. They (NSW and VIC) have sold all their assets, have not maintained their own infrastructure to a required level and exist simple on dwindling cash flow and are dependent on a disproportional share of federal revenue.

Frankly, I believe we are almost at a time where some very disturbing but essential decisions need to be made. We cannot continue to exist on an outdated government/social model while we move to more challenging times.

Duplicity in Government will have to stop....cant afford it....State Governments will have to go .... local councils with more responsibility.
Feds to pick up education/health/water/transport. They have picked up a huge part of the funding already.

You cant have the water rights of the Murray sold off by the state Governments on either bank and then want the rest of Australia to bail the area out. Not On !.

I've got a whole list of these ideas ... aren't you lucky I'm not the PM.

[Rebel1]

Sambo, have a look at the reduction of water use in SE Qld.

Now using on average less than half that of 2004.



Our Dams are at an average of 59% full now so we have around 10 years supply at current usage levels.

[Tatsushige]

G’day Guys,

A little help is needed please, I have decided to can the 25th Anniversary Countach idea as there is just too many problems in building the cars and getting them in to Japan to sell, so I am just going to get myself a Diablo Roadster from DC Supercars in the UK

Yellow DC SuperCars Diablo Roadster

The Chassis cost about £3870.00 and the Bodykit is £5,840.00 to complete the build I have been told about £30,000 to about £45,000

I have spoken to 3 guys that have built the Diablos from DC and was informed that they are a easy build and pass the SVA test without any problems

I want to go with the colour of the Diablo Kit below but have no idea as to its name,

Some say it is call DARK CHERRY PEARL and others have said BLACK CHERRY PEARL if anyone has a idea to what the colour is called please PM .


Thanks