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Aussie Mike · #1 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 05:52 PM

Don't you start Dave. This is how the Cold War started. Khrushchev and Eisenhower were arguing about who had the biggest A-Bomb

Rebel1 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 06:01 PM

And ...

It would appear there were a couple of chev powered AC Ace running around years before good ole Shel even thought of the cobra.

Called the CorVace .... see here.

CorVace Photos!

Aussie Mike · #3 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 07:15 PM

Oh to have fallen so far...

From one who was once one of the blue oval's staunchest most one eyed supporters. To have pointed out that the chev came first...

Les I humbly offer my Vader mask and cloak to you. You are now the master.

Cheers

Rebel1 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

Oh to have fallen so far...

From one who was once one of the blue oval's staunchest most one eyed supporters. To have pointed out that the chev came first...

Les I humbly offer my Vader mask and cloak to you. You are now the master.

Cheers

Who me! .... never .... nope .... Not this lil fella.

Always been totally supportive and considerate when it came to those using alternate engines.

(crosses fingers)

Don't want ya mask and cloak taa ... you remain the instigator and master of all things involving chevs in cobras.

AC-460 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebel1

And ...

It would appear there were a couple of chev powered AC Ace running around years before good ole Shel even thought of the cobra.

Called the CorVace .... see here.

CorVace Photos!

Hey barry hows your CORVACE coming along

We could go on forever .....
Cheers Mark

AC-460 · #6 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 09:41 PM

Maybe you blokes with chev powered cobras should call them a corvace cause it sounds like thats what they are.......

Laugh
Cheers Mark

Plums · #7 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 10:17 PM

I'd be happy to call mine a Corvace..... considering it doesn't have one Ford part on it

boxhead · #8 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 11:23 PM

Mines a Kobra

sambo · #9 (**permalink**) 02-25-2009, 11:50 PM

Mine's no more practical than a Mazda MX-5. Just a lot cooler.

Merv and Sharon · #10 (**permalink**) 02-26-2009, 12:50 AM

This again!?!

I guess that the Cobras that we make are on a continuum. At one end are the 'real' Cobras (does it really matter what Shelby could have or might have done.... he did use Ford and created the legend that we connect with in our various ways) and at the other end are the ones that have 4-cylinder motors (in the UK), BMW motors and one day maybe even diesels or electric motors when the fossil fuels run out. We position ourselves at various points along that continuum according to our desire for originality and preference. I have a Ford but I am sure that there will be times when I will think I should have gone for the GM product - if they survive the recession.

Merv

Rob. Smith · #11 (**permalink**) 02-26-2009, 02:01 AM

I really enjoyed reading this lot; a good laugh. Rember Carrol approached Chev first and they told him to pi$$ off. ha ha ha

boxhead · #12 (**permalink**) 02-26-2009, 03:29 PM

I wonder what side of the fence he is on?

Nah, in all honesty it is all in fun.
I love these cars no matter what engine is in them (Although I might struggle if there was something that was air cooled).

I have no shame in saying I would love a street car that was slabside and 289 powered with 4 down draught webbers.
I would even put a luggage rack on the boot lid and wear a tweed jacket with the leather patches on my elbows.
Egg crate grille, 2 pidly little tailpipes out the back, BRG in color, tan interior and wire wheels.

But if I had that I would still want my beer can motor Kobra

for the fun days.

Rebel1 · #13 (**permalink**) 02-26-2009, 03:54 PM

I'm with you boxhead, a nice 289 with downdrafts would be great...maybe even use wire wheels.

A mate and I were having this ford chev convo some time back. We both agreed that had ford developed the windsor as did chev with their small block, ie alloy block, good heads, better intakes etc., to comply with modern pollution requirments then they would have been much better off than useing the ohc mod engine range.

There is no doubt that the windsor is a great engine....just a shame that ford elected to not develop it further.

Aussie Mike · #14 (**permalink**) 02-26-2009, 04:17 PM

I don't think you could call the Gen3 an evolution of the earlier small block chevs. It was a clean sheet of paper. There's not one thing from the old motor that's common with the new motor. It's a push rod V8 is about as close as it gets.

I think Ford went with the mod motor thinking that common design could be used in a lot of different applications. Lop 2 cylinders off and you have a V6 etc, Use one cylinder head on a 4 cylinder block etc. I don't think these other applications have really taken off and development has stalled a bit.

They also designed it to be very short in length to suit Front Wheel Drive applications. Unfortunately this has limited their ability to build big cubic inches. They've made up for it by offering plenty of factory built forced induction options though.

I guess in an age of alternative energy and striving for fuel efficiency etc we should be thankful there are any V8s being developed by the Automakers.

Cheers

Philm · #15 (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 03:39 PM

It has just got be be a Ford.

Thanks Les for bringing me into this, I do like to keep my preference of engine types to myself.

But you guys have got it all wrong, you don,t need water to cool an engine.

Phil

pcoghlan · #16 (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 03:53 PM

As you say, each to their own. I run a Chevrolet 383 in my GD but have no issue with Fords.

If it sounds good and drives then what is the harm?!

To the earlier reply along the lines of 'if Carroll Shelby didn't put a Chevy in it...etc' lets not forget that he did approach GM first and got turned away. He then went to Ford. So all it would have taken was a slightly different meeting to turn this discussion on its head.

Paul

NASSTY · #17 (**permalink**) 03-07-2009, 09:53 PM

I look at it this way, the windsor small block was designed in the fifties and lasted until the early '90s (Ford Aus stockpiled them to last until 2002). It's an old design that originally only produced somewhere I think between 100 to 150 hp at the fly. The standard block is good for somewhere b/w 500-600 hp as I understand it but with aftermarket parts.

Now fast forward to the modded V8's. Don't be too quick to draw a conclusion from them. Check out this youtube vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZWoDweqJk

It's 10 mins long but worth the download. Apart from the twin turbos on this Ford GT the rest is completely stock and yet it produces over 1000 rwhp and 700footpounds of torque!!!!
WTF?!?!? All from a standard GT motor.

The only bad thing ford did was stop producing them!

Rob. Smith · #18 (**permalink**) 03-08-2009, 01:59 AM

I had a mate up in central queensland that had a flathead powered welder. Man when he struck an arc the sound of that flathead cracking the throttle and revving hard was the epitome of the true V8 sound. It had open pipes and just sounded so sweet. The Flathead V8 is still today one of the nicest sounding v8 engine noises around.
That's the original V8 and a FORD

steeler · #19 (**permalink**) 03-08-2009, 03:09 PM

I have both (Fence sitter)
The GM LS1 goes great, but the Ford 302 "Sounds" better.