ESC mandatory

[martrogers]

I made sure I had the emission compliance rule from the NSW RTA in writing before I started my build.

They said that I would have 3 years to complete the build after the build date of the complying donor car. I therefore needed to find a relatively recent write off.

My donor car was build date Oct 04 so I had until Oct 07 to "complete", which I just managed.

They didn't define "complete" so I got my engineer to agree it was complete before he even started testing (which it was). It was actually nearly 12 mths after completion when I finally got number plates, but thats another story.

Of course, they change the rules regularly so this may not be the current rule.

The state system is detrimental to many industries, if the UK can have unified rules and laws for 60m people why can't Australia - unbelievable.

[Zedn]

martrogers,

I believe that is still the current rule, i spoke to Kevin (engineer) in June and he said the same. Now i am not sure what happens when you use a crate motor, i think that it just has to be a current series motor.

When i move the car in about a month to the new house, i am going to organise to take my chassis in for testing whilst i have the car trailer. Im hoping this will be a good opportunity for me to ask some questions about motors, ESC, and i also need to find out about the brakes. Apparently you need to have the entire system from the doner car. Hopefully if i need to use the jaguar master cylinder i can install an adjustment valve of some sort as an unbalanced brake system will make for an exciting 160kph brake test!

In regards to the replica category, i think that is a good idea and i am happy to help make up numbers. Unfortunately i am like any other builder that is not retired and have very little time to spend yelling at a brick wall. As has been previously stated its the Kit Manufacturers that should be thinking about this as it is their full time job. I reckon that if it got to the point that registration was getting too difficult then there might be some action but at this stage everyone seems to get through eventually so maybe its not that bad. No matter what the rules are there will always be hurdles and problems to solve, thats part of the fun. Yes we are limited in what parts we can use but to be honest most of it is for our own safety. Personally i wouldnt install a carby engine even if i could because i find them a PITA (who wants to mess around with setting up floats and drilling jet blanks). Only real thing that worries me is what Baz says that goal posts can move mid build but that seems to only be NSW.

Liam

[Rebel1]

Liam, If I could give you any advice, it is this:

Your engineer is your key to this whole experience. Pass everything past him that has to do with ADR's and compliance.

It is he who will eventually sign the car as compliant to get it registered.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Rebel1

Liam, If I could give you any advice, it is this:

Your engineer is your key to this whole experience. Pass everything past him that has to do with ADR's and compliance.

It is he who will eventually sign the car as compliant to get it registered.

Les,

I involved myself in this topic with all the good intentions of trying to do something for any person who is contemplating building an ICV in the future, you know, to provide them with a simpler and fairer system, knowing that when you started your build, if you followed certain established guidelines and current ADR's, then Engineering and Registration would only be a formality.

After reading the background of what transpired in the past, I really feel sorry for blokes like the former National Cobra Club President, John Staynski.

He had the guts to speak up while everyone else who would benefit from his hard work, just sat back and waited for a positive result, reluctant to get involved in case they offended someone.

John was representing the Australian Cobra Collective. Unlike the Cobra Collective, the Street Rod Federation planned their action together as a highly cohesive group, each member aiming at the same target and not caring who they offended in order to achieve their desired objectives.

Well I'm a quick learner. I've been through this hoop before and I don't plan on going there again. A lone voice is nothing. It achieves nothing except frustration. On the other hand a large group or organisation which carries with it a number of Electoral Votes speaks far louder. If John Staynski couldn't achieve his dream as the National President, how can I achieve mine as a lone voice.

It's obvious that I'm wasting my time, time which I was prepared to donate to make future builders lives a lot easier.

Liam. Rebel's correct. Talk with your Engineer.

Baz