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Old 11-09-2009, 02:17 AM
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I agree Liam. The survey format that you attached could give us data to use/quote, especially if the survey was well focussed on 'yes/no' issues regarding the creation of a "Cobra Class" of vehicle, similar to the Hot Rod association's. We may never, as Craig says, agree on all the issues but I suspect we would one the critical ones.

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Merv, to answer your question re consequent meetings .. no there hasn't.

In response to Craig's comment ie. "And I can tell you that holding a meeting of this type at a particular manufacturers place of business, like the meeting at DRB, is the wrong approach." .... I say absolute bloody rubbish.

No one outside of the industry knew of this meeting except myself. Those invited to this meeting were manufacturers/builders and the object of the meeting was as a simple courtesy, repeat a courtesy, to the builders to advise them the outcome of several discussions held with QT. I was the only "outsider" invited as the QT discussions had mostly been with me owing to my long standing "contacts" within the department. I left this meeting somewhat dejected.

I repeat what I mentioned in a previous thread ... QT were most helpful and even advised us what they considered the best way to move forward. What a loss of an opportunity?.

What then happened was a public meeting was held at Meadowbrook and the whole thing fell to pieces. I did not attend this meeting.

Why did it fall to pieces?? .... There is an old saying in government circles .... ie.: "Never call an enquiry unless you know the outcome"

John Staszynski had it all sorted and had begun the process. All he wanted was to establish a coordinated common purpose lobby group in every state and territory of Aust.

As to the question of "replica" regulations or staying with the ICV classification. The builder has the choice as to what classification he wishes to comply just as the hot rod fellas currently enjoy. It is just a damn site easier for them under the hot rod regulations.

There is much I can't divulge in a public forum regarding my discussions with QT, but one thing which does stick in my mind is: The department does not like ICV's or hot rods. Read into that what you will.

Craig, If I was currently in the market for a GT40 I would like to know if I can register the car in say 2012. I would certainly like to know if I had to plan for the fitment of ESC and what, if anything, my supplier is doing to address the question.



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Old 11-09-2009, 03:37 PM
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Craig, If I was currently in the market for a GT40 I would like to know if I can register the car in say 2012. I would certainly like to know if I had to plan for the fitment of ESC and what, if anything, my supplier is doing to address the question.

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Les there are no guarantees. There could very well be other changes that occur before then. That's the way it works for ICV's. My gut feeling is that the transport departments will not want us to incorporate ESC ourselves. Common sense will prevail. As it has done in the past. But that's just my opinion and I don't feel I should be crusified for it.

Over the last few years I have seen both common sense from transport departments and what I consider to be disappointing changes. It's a mixed bag.

Yes you could choose whether you wanted the "replica" regulations or ICV regulations. But we couldn't even come up with a consolidated approach. Some people involved wanted replica regulations and others wanted to change the ICV regulations.

I certainly pushed for financial involvement as that is the way the Australian Street Rod Federation works. They pay Barristers etc to fight for and protect their regulations.
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