Second Roll Bar

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by jwd

Do you have a link to that poll? I searched but couldn't find it. Similar polls on other forums yielded quite the opposite results.

There was a subsequent poll that requested the first poll be suppressed. That poll was also overwhelming in its popularity.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by patrickt

That poll was also overwhelming in its popularity.

Ahh, it's coming back to me now. The first poll was so high-spirited in its appreciation for the dual setup that, as a result, Mr. Mustang announced that he was going to commission mickmate to have dual roll bars fabricated for his four-poster. It was at at that time that Jamo & Computerworks stepped in and suppressed the poll out of courtesy to the viewing membership. I suspect though that a careful search of the Google cache would bring it back up.

[jwd]

It's not worth the work. I just wanted to see it for myself as I've never seen one that favored 2 bars.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by jwd

It's not worth the work. I just wanted to see it for myself as I've never seen one that favored 2 bars.

Here you go. As I now recall the poll was actually extended beyond the confines of just ClubCobra.

[jwd]

Thanks Patrick. It's clear as mud now. I actually thought that was a red and blue snake showing the different Kama Sutra positions.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by jwd

Thanks Patrick. It's clear as mud now.

Don't mention it. That poll is often confused with an earlier ClubCobra poll that found a 428FE in an ERA was actually superior, both aesthetically and mechanically, to SPFs, Kirkhams, Shelbys, and even original cars themselves.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Don't mention it. That poll is often confused with an earlier ClubCobra poll that found a 428FE in an ERA was actually superior, both aesthetically and mechanically, to SPFs, Kirkhams, Shelbys, and even original cars themselves.

Was that the same poll that showed engine size was in direct contrast to penis size?

[Buzz]

IMHO dual roll bars suck aesthetically - they scream "kit car!" and are the ricer wings of the Cobra world . The original reason for the single roll bar is based on the concept of racing on sunday and driving to work monday. The only time rollover protection was needed was when hauling a$$ on the track - ie: only the driver in the car - no need for passenger protection.

On the street; the idea was that, when hauling passengers (as opposed to a$$), the responsible pilot would consider pedestrian issues like the rules of the road and the safety of their significant other. Under such circumstances, a Cobra is no more likely to suddenly turn turtle than any other convertible (yeah right) and no more needs to be festooned with multiple hoops than a stock engined Civic needs the downforce of a massive rear wing.

Having said all that, I respect that there are those faced with circumstances that transcend the triviality of aesthetics.

Wifey sez "You don't care if I die!"

Track driving instructors won't ride without one.

Folks at the show 'n' shine think your early Vette looks lopsided.

So, tell opinionated people like me to stuff it and do whatever suits you best.

[Buzz]

Saved you the trouble

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Buzz

patrickt - can we still be friends? (I like your ERA...)

Not unless you add a caveat dealing with padded dual roll bars.

Originally Posted by Buzz

Saved you the trouble

No, I would never write something like that.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by Buzz

IMHO dual roll bars suck aesthetically

I have to agree with Buzz.

A better looking (and probably more effective option) would be a full hoop. Pretty tough as a retro-fit on most cars, but Superformance does offer it as a factory option.

[Ronbo]

Hmm, well dual bars have the advantage of six attachment points as opposed to the four on the full hoop.

Dual bars look more "balanced" for what it's worth. Hopefully they're never needed, but considering the windshield will just fold in..

One of the biggest issues is the thin wall tubing some of the kit builders use making the roll bar merely ornamental.

Another senerio happened just last year: One of the members here went off the road and wound up under the cable barrier, The roll bar stopped it from taking his head off.

Ya never know...

[emberglo66]

I happen to like the full hoop... Guess thats why I had one custom built.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

Dual bars look more "balanced" for what it's worth...

Ronbo, you clearly have the heart, eye, and soul of an artist -- here's a gently photoshopped pic of my car as it would appear with a single roll bar.

[donraye]

Originally Posted by Buzz

IMHO dual roll bars suck aesthetically - they scream "kit car!" and are the ricer wings of the Cobra world . The original reason for the single roll bar is based on the concept of racing on sunday and driving to work monday. The only time rollover protection was needed was when hauling a$$ on the track - ie: only the driver in the car - no need for passenger protection.

On the street; the idea was that, when hauling passengers (as opposed to a$$), the responsible pilot would consider pedestrian issues like the rules of the road and the safety of their significant other. Under such circumstances, a Cobra is no more likely to suddenly turn turtle than any other convertible (yeah right) and no more needs to be festooned with multiple hoops than a stock engined Civic needs the downforce of a massive rear wing.

Having said all that, I respect that there are those faced with circumstances that transcend the triviality of aesthetics.

Wifey sez "You don't care if I die!"

Track driving instructors won't ride without one.

Folks at the show 'n' shine think your early Vette looks lopsided.

So, tell opinionated people like me to stuff it and do whatever suits you best.

OK, Stuff it! I happen to think that my (as well as others') Cobras look a lot better with dual roll bars than with singles.
Yes, my wifes' safety on drives is also a big concern to me, but I'd have had a double loop installed in spite of that for purely aesthetic reasons.
As for screaming "kit car" I for one am proud of the fact that I hand built my car the way I wanted it, and I'm not trying to fool anyone into thinking it is an "original" Cobra.
If you want an original Cobra you should buy one, trying to "pose" as one is a bit too shallow, even for me.
Don

[Buzz]

I think they suck and you don't. No need to throw a hissy fit. I promise you life will go on and you will get over this. Some people think they look better with big wings, high back seats, 30" rims and IMSA air dams. I disagree, but I wont break down and cry over it. To each his own.

[Ronbo]

Buzz, what's this in your gallery...



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