ALL - Roll Bars

[Double Venom]

Patrick,

I know no matter how I put this it is not coming out right so I DO apologize now and up front;

IF I have "laundry" to keep clean I don't post it up front, but in this case, (Roll bars that I am making) it is all up front.

#1, IF you had ordered them from CR's they would have been at least 90 to 120 days out! Course that statement is illrelavent. (I assure you, from now on I will tell the forum "90" days! Then when they do get them sooner they will be happy).

#2 I certainly am NOT trying to blame the "Infamous" Gatrell for any of my delays OR anything else! (May I suggest you do your own serious back ground check on Gatrell? You will find the information, the moneys due to customers, the yearS long delay in delivering parts he doesn't have nor can get, the KITS that he has sold and he can not get, the Illegal if not simply Fraudulent advertising he has and is doing-even now as I type this certainly defines "Infamous" in my book. There have been a few people that have come to this board only to find out the truth. If you OR Terry OR his Attorney want names, dates, times, money's due, parts due, complete kits due, I will be glad to supply all the above information that I just know about!

#3 Refusing to answer your E-MAILS...IF I remember right If I hadn't answered your e-mails within three days tops, you sent yet another one?
As far as I know I have answered ALL your e-mails in a timely manner. I have been answering hundreds if now thousands of e-mails from this forum for over 15(?) years. It is fetish of mine that ALL emails get answered as soon as possible AND the order in which I receive them. If an e-mail comes to me asking a question that needs some research or locating something it may push all the following e-mails back a day or two.

I had to call Gatrell TWICE before he finally returned my calls!

#4, Yes, doing body work first cutting ALL holes, hanging the doors, fitting the dash, cutting out the bumpers, hood, trunk, MOUNTING THE BODY AND THEN AND ONLY THEN, the roll bars holes are matched to the body and the frame. That part is not or should not be done until the last thing! When I talked to Gatrell he hadn't done the first thing on the body! He could have the Roll Bars Today and per him he wont have the body ready to mount them (my guess)-at least 90 days from delivery!

I told Gatrell when I talked to him 7 to 10 days and they still should be on the time frame, plus delivery.

PEASE: Go to Club Cobras Main page:- please read this entire post-
Cobra Completion Fundraiser for 767Jockey
This is about a guy that has some serious issues, after getting at least a dozen E-mails asking If I wouldn't be willing to help him out, (All it would have taken is one.) I agreed to finish his car completely for free. Dozens of others from our Cobra Family are helping out from supplying missing parts, a huge open ended cash fund for misc., and transporting his car from New Jersey to Pentwater Mi., without charge.

You will see in this post that I am totally clearing out previous jobs in my shop for two Cobras; one of which is Cpt. Eddies if he decides to keep his car and bring it back for the final finishing and of course "Dougs" Cobra so he can finally drive it.

Veteran to Veteran, Cobra Family member to Cobra family member, Supplier to Customer, I will finish Both of your Roll Bars way before Mr. Gatrell is truly ready to use them!

I was even go to the point of getting them powder coated or Chromed for you, but now I think is more important that you get them in your hands.

Sincerely, DV

[badvnom]

I sent a reply to doublevenom@ferguson-motorsports.com

[Double Venom]

Patrick,
Your latest e-mail was answered a few hours ago.
DV

[Double Venom]

Bars are almost finished, but this is a side by side comparison of the CR II's, and My DOM Bars.

The original bar is actually shorter than the windshield!
Why it was ever done that way is beyond me!

(I think it just came to me-why the CR's bars are shorter.... Thinking back to the start with Rutherford at the original CR's, cost was everything Just above quality, looks, and options. To raise the bar the few inches that it needed to get over the windshield, which was not (I may be wrong on this) at the time required to be over the windshield.(?) But making it shorter also made the third leg shorter, saving AT least 12"s of pipe on every bar???)

[Jcmrant]

My two bars are going to match, right?

[Double Venom]

To the Degree!

[Jcmrant]

DV, Any updates?

[Double Venom]

Being shipped as we speak! Including yours JC, you will find a little extra in your box for being the guinea pig-twice. DO as you will- use-sell-hang it up!?? Do NOT send any money!
DV

PS...My Ford guy is bringing me the shipping boxes, as soon as he delivers, they will be out of here!

[Jcmrant]

Thanks DV you're the man!!! I'm sure I'll be needing ur services again!! Thanks for the surprise can't wait to see what it is.

[Jcmrant]

DV, Received the bars and they look great. Thanks again and happy holidays.

[Double Venom]

JC.....

I only show one bar not delivered yet? But, IF you need help along the way let me know!

Glad you liked them..give you something to do after Santa Claus comes!

[JEwalt]

Ed -

Got my Christmas present(s) 12/24 - and they do look GREAT!!
Did a mock up on the frame - where is the back support supposed to attach to the frame - I have an idea, but would like visual confirmation if possible.

Once I get the placement and attachment method determined, its off for chroming.

Thanks again.

Jeff

[cobra77]

DV,

I'm assuming that the last roll bar is mine because I have not received mine yet.

Let me know,
Chris

[Jcmrant]

DV, any update? Was I correct about the bars?

[Jcmrant]

DV, Call me. This is very disappointing that I have left several messages and not heard anything from you!!!!!!! This is starting to feel all to familar.

[Double Venom]

No way fella! those days don't belong here! Send me a PM with your number, OK?
I've got to get a new answering machine!
Your bars by the way are about done.
Sorry for no communications fella!
DV