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02-21-2012, 03:56 AM
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Way off topic... Question(s)
I'm selling a "pricey" tool box and a guy on an off shore Drilling Rig wants to buy it through "pay-Pal? Not being real computer savy, and afraid of "scams" just wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
He says he will pay all charges etc., and will have the item picked up AFTER I receive the money.
Curious: Opinions?
DV
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02-21-2012, 05:56 AM
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PP has no protection for anything that doesn't go through Ebay. Tell him to send cash/money order next time he's ashore.
BTW, I'm reworking the Daytona you built for Tony R. a few years back. Drop me an email if you want any info.
John
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02-21-2012, 06:27 AM
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Ed, I sold a 1965 BBF to a guy in Germany. We agreed on a price for it all and he wired the money through Western union.
I went to Krogers ( if you can imagine that ) and got the money. A truck showed up and the engine left in a wood crate.
Try the Western union thing.
Just my $.02 worth.
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02-21-2012, 08:34 AM
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Well this doesn't sound promising. However ever I am supposed to have the "cash in hand' before the box is picked up. I guess I am wondering if the payment of PP CANBE CANCELED after it is sent. I have heard of and know of cashiers checks AND money orders not being valid after the "victim" deposits them?
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02-21-2012, 08:51 AM
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Well this doesn't sound promising. However ever I am supposed to have the "cash in hand' before the box is picked up. I guess I am wondering if the payment of PP CANBE CANCELED after it is sent. I have heard of and know of cashiers checks AND money orders not being valid after the "victim" deposits them?
DV
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02-21-2012, 11:04 AM
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Yes, the PP can be cancelled and they will charge your bank account for it. Been some scams lately about people stealing money and using PP to clean the funds. However its the seller that gets caught once PP figures out the buyer used stolen funds. If its a lot of money have him wire it to you. Charge should be in the $15 - $25 range.
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02-21-2012, 11:46 AM
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Ask for a personal check and wait three days. Then check your account to see if it has cleared. Don't trust a cashiers check, it takes a month or more to clear.
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02-21-2012, 12:44 PM
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Cant a forged personal check take a while to detect too?
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02-21-2012, 01:05 PM
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Do a wire transfer bank to bank. Set up a separate account for this purpose only.
Once the money is received into the separate account, quickly cash it out or move it to another account of your choosing.
His response is a scam!
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02-21-2012, 01:12 PM
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DV,
Bank to Bank wire transfer takes hours and is the most secure method available.
Low cost and safe, it is how I sold my Shelby to a buyer in Swtzerland.
BTW Redmt does want to talk to you about the coupe.
TR
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02-21-2012, 01:13 PM
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Definitely a scam. The "buyer" always has a reason he must use only Paypal, such as he's part of a ship's crew, or on a military exercise/deployment, or in your case, on an oil rig. |
02-21-2012, 02:09 PM
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Double Venom, there will always be some level of risk with internet purchases.
To outright conclude its a scam on what has been described above would be hasty.
It makes sense to me that an OIL RIG worker might want and appreciate a PRICEY tool set
Honest people on evil-bay get scammed all the time hence the opportunity to post negative feedback.
On the other side of the coin he is seemingly risking more by forwarding money to you prior to (seeing and/or) collecting the item. The question he would be asking himself is - "Is the vendor legitimate?"
Somewhere, someone has to eventually bite the bullet and take some risk if such a deals are to proceed. What jhv48 and Tony R have suggested puts the majority of the risk on him, and will protect you to some extent.
Good luck
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02-21-2012, 08:28 PM
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DV.......discuss with the bank where you have an account and ask their guidance/opinion/pro-con on the various alternatives. It's been awhile, but there are various regulations and processing times on the payment method to fully clear, without putting your personal funds at risk. In the worst case, the bank can withdraw funds from your account if funds are unavailable from the sender to support the deposit and you had taken possession of the money in cash outside of your bank account.
If your not comfortable with the risk......
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02-21-2012, 08:37 PM
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CASH IS KING DV dont take any chances , tools are just to easy to make disappear no serial numbers etc . Aint worth it brother
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02-21-2012, 08:39 PM
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You should be able to set up a paypal account without giving them any bank info. Have him pay you, then you can send a withdrawl request to paypal and they will send you a check in the mail in about 10 days. Cash it in the bank and they can let you know when it clears. It should work.
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02-22-2012, 03:27 AM
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Hmm,
and I thought PP was supposed to be easy and basically easy! Now I have received an e-mail from PP that all the money promised has been put into my PP account BUT per their agreement with the buyer the transport fees and western union fees have to be paid before they (PP) will release the funds. Deeper and deeper- will let you know the outcome. If it is a scam,this guy is good!
DV
PS hard to send a WU gram, cash, check or any other mail from an oil rig! 
By the way NOT tools but two very large Snap On Gold Medal tool boxes! |
02-22-2012, 04:59 AM
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Ed, Western union can be done over the internet if I am not mistaken.
Anyway, Last I heard, PP has dodged an assortment of bullets from the feds over "banking" laws they do not want to conform to.
Based on that alone, PP scares me each time I have to deal with them.
If you have to give bank information to PP to get your money, go to some bank you do not plan to keep and open an accont for just this deal.
Tru
One more thing - mail comes and goes from an oil rig daily or every-other-day.
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02-22-2012, 07:14 AM
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All he has to do is call his bank and have them wire the funds into your account. Simple. If he can contact you on the internet, he can contact his bank.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, IT'S A DUCK!
If you do it his way, you are going to give your tool boxes away! Find another buyer!
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02-22-2012, 03:11 PM
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DV,
If they're asking you to pay this:
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per their agreement with the buyer the transport fees and western union fees have to be paid before they (PP) will release the funds
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run away!
Tom
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02-22-2012, 04:36 PM
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DV,
I agree with Tom. RUN AWAY, but FAST.
Sounds too fishy to me.
Here is an idea DV. Call your local police or your own bank and ask them their opinion.
Might be an idea for everyone to ask your own bank the best way and how long you should wait to send the goods if you are selling and the best way to protect yourself if you are the buyer. If you are trying to sell or buy something that is.
Just a thought.
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