Hello from Italy

micoren · #1 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 06:41 AM

Hello : I'm an Italian enthusiast of all Cobras . Now I've find an old 427 replica in a barn with only 3000 km on the clock and a tubular chassis and a Montecarlo plate. The car is in timewarp condition but it have a v8 with a strange brand on the cover . " M/T " . What's the builder of this engine ?

micoren · #2 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 06:48 AM

This my personal collection of 1/43 AC model

Anno Marca Descrizione Numero di gara Produttore Codice del produttore
1959 Ac Ace Neo 45006
1962 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 spider aperta ruote a raggi Bang 0410
1962 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 spider aperta ruote in lega l Bang 0411
1962 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 spider chiusa Bang 0412
1965 Ac 428 Frua convertibile Neo 45020
1966 Ac 428 Frua Fastback Neo 45022
1967 Ac Cobra Cobra 427 S/C Del Prado 49
1970 Ac Cobra Cobra 427 S/C Kyosho 03011S
1967 Ac Cobra "Cobra 427 ""hand polished""" Bang 1020
1958 Ac Ace LM Le Mans 58 Bolton Stoop 28 Provence M.
1962 Ac Cobra Cobra 260 Riverside 62 B.Krause 98 Box Model 8422
1963 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 12h Sebring 63 Gurney P. Hill 15 Bang 0414
1963 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 3h Daytona 63 Skip Hudson 97 Bang 7293
1963 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Laguna Seca 63 Grant 96 Bang 0421
1963 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Le Mans 63 Bolton Sanderson 3 Bang 0438
1963 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Le Mans 63 Hugus Jop 4 Bang 0420
1963 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Riverside 63 A. Grant 96 Bang 7292
1964 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Le Mans 64 Fraissinet De Mortmart 64 Spark 1183
1964 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Targa Florio 64 Gregory Ireland 148 Bang 7339
1964 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Targa Florio 64 Gurney Grant 146 Bang 0423
1964 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Targa Florio 64 Hill Bondurant 142 Bang 7310
1964 Ac Cobra Cobra 289 Targa Florio 64 Tchkotoua Hitchock 152 Bang 7352
1964 Ac Cobra Daytona coupè pronto corsa Kyosho 03051A
1965 Ac Cobra "Daytona coupè "" Carrol Shelby """ 98 Kyosho 03051D
1965 Ac Cobra Daytona coupè 12h di Reims Bondurant Schlesser 26 Kyosho 03051C
1965 Ac Cobra Daytona coupè Le Mans 65 Harper Sutcliffe 59 Kyosho 03051F

Seagull81 · #3 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 06:51 AM

Welcome to the forum, micoren. Are you buying the Cobra? The M/T on the valve covers is for Mickey Thompson. Probably not the engine builder, but parts bought for the engine.
Do you have any pictures.

Paul F · #4 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 07:30 AM

Yes, pictures of the engine bay, interior, side shot, back shot, front. There are many experts here that can help you identify the maker of the car. The motor can be identified by the number cast on the block. Numbers like this:

Ford FE Engine Block Casting Numbers - FORDification.com

micoren · #5 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 09:12 AM

I've just 1 photo because I don't show a great interest on the car .

Bernica · #6 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 09:19 AM

Welcome!
More pics as noted above will help...front, back, full side and the engine compartment. Also, when in the engine compartment look for any manufacturer's ID tags and get a pic of them as well.
Good luck!

mrmustang · #7 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 09:26 AM

Turned dash, red seats, there was an A&C (not AC) Cobra replica sold out of Utah a year or so ago with that combination. More pictures would be helpful.

Engine compartment (stand on a ladder, shoot downwards, try to have whole compartment showing in one shot)
Firewall
Trunk
Frame front and rear suspension mounting points

Bill S.

micoren · #8 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 09:32 AM

The car have a manual gear , with a safety trigger under the shift knob, probabily to prevent the accidental use of the reverse gear

Bernica · #9 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmustang

Turned dash, red seats,
Bill S.

Headrests and maybe Torque Thrust wheels too?

Buzz · #10 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 10:30 AM

Hello Micoren - welcome to Club Cobra. The shape of the front part of the door indicates that it is probably a replica built by Classic Roadsters with a stretched wheelbase of 96 (I think) inches vs. 90 inches used on original Cobras and the more authentic shaped replicas. There was another company that used this same body style in a factory-produced, production certified replica called the Excalibur. The Excaliburs were powered by fuel injected Ford 5.0 litre V8's mated to a T5 manual transmission. If your car has telescopic impact absorbing bumpers, cosmetic body-mounted roll bar and production car style seatbelts, then it is probably one of these. If it has plain hard-mounted bumpers or quick jacks, a racing style harness and a roll bar mounted through to the frame, then my bet is that its a Classic Roadsters product.

Buzz

cycleguy55 · #11 (**permalink**) 12-19-2014, 10:59 AM

Having seen photos of Excalibur dashboards, I think this is more likely to be a Classic Roadsters car.

'95 Excalibur: 95 Excalibur - Club Cobra Photo Gallery
'94 Excalibur: 1994 Excalibur JAC 427 Cobra - Club Cobra Photo Gallery

micoren · #12 (**permalink**) 12-21-2014, 05:58 AM

Thank you at all. I'll go back in the old garage to make more photo and see the papers . If it's a Classic roadster what's the correct value ?

Ron61 · #13 (**permalink**) 12-21-2014, 08:34 AM

That is a kind of hard question to answer without knowing all about the car. The quality of the build has a lot to do with the value. Also all of the other things the members have posted above.

Ron

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Originally Posted by micoren

Thank you at all. I'll go back in the old garage to make more photo and see the papers . If it's a Classic roadster what's the correct value ?

Bernica · #14 (**permalink**) 12-21-2014, 11:58 AM

If possible, try to get the car up enough to also get pics of front and rear suspension as well as the chassis. All will help.

micoren · #15 (**permalink**) 12-30-2014, 03:09 AM

Hello . There is more photo. Thank all you for yhe precious help . Have a happy new year

micoren · #16 (**permalink**) 12-30-2014, 03:12 AM

Another two

mrmustang · #17 (**permalink**) 12-30-2014, 03:41 AM

Excalibur cobra replica it is, the "tell" is the center mounted hood latch/release.

Bill S.

micoren · #18 (**permalink**) 12-30-2014, 03:45 AM

more photo

bobcowan · #19 (**permalink**) 12-30-2014, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmustang

Excalibur cobra replica it is, the "tell" is the center mounted hood latch/release.
Bill S.

Bill, you know a lot more about these cars than I do. So I'm not going to argue about much of anything.

But, I built a Classics Roadsters about 15 years ago. IIRC, It had a center mounted hood latch that looked just like that. I remember it because it was very difficult to get it to work correctly. That was before digital cameras, so I don't have a lot of pictures.

The shape of the dash and the doors also looks very much like a CR.

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Originally Posted by micoren

more photo

Where are you located? I lived in Sicily for a couple of years, and really loved it. I dream of going back for a visit, and to see more of the main land.

micoren · #20 (**permalink**) 12-30-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bobcowan

Bill, you know a lot more about these cars than I do. So I'm not going to argue about much of anything.

But, I built a Classics Roadsters about 15 years ago. IIRC, It had a center mounted hood latch that looked just like that. I remember it because it was very difficult to get it to work correctly. That was before digital cameras, so I don't have a lot of pictures.

The shape of the dash and the doors also looks very much like a CR.

Where are you located? I lived in Sicily for a couple of years, and really loved it. I dream of going back for a visit, and to see more of the main land.

I live in Caserta near Naples . The site of Reggia , the most beatiful Royal Palace in the world ( Bill Clinton said ).
If you will back in Italy contact me . I will be very happy to show the south of Italy