Researching any info re: Paul Cunningham, Competition Cobra privateer

[Nedsel]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

Interesting website...

SHELBY MEMORABILIA — VERNON ESTES CLASSICS SHELBY MEMORABILIA — VERNON ESTES CLASSICS


All you need to do is buy a blank invoice ($45) on this site, get that old manual typewriter out of your garage and start typing using a real invoice as to correct content for a Cobra sale and VOILA! you have period correct invoice on the correct paper and typewriter.

Present this to someone or court and you to can be a CSX2049 owner.

Just playing around and found out how easy it is to get your hands on invoice material used by Shelby.

RIP CSX2049

To whatever extent you might be suggesting that SAAC or other record-keepers use reproduction paperwork to support some type of malfeasance, I would politely suggest you are 100% wrong. We know exactly what came from the Shelby and Ford archives vs. anything submitted by an owner at a later date, and the latter submissions make us wonder: why wasn't a copy of this in the factory records? The fact is, given what our mission is - to document history truthfully - we don't accept documentation on cars with debated history from owners unless it is corroborated elsewhere. Just so you are aware of how we operate.

[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

To whatever extent you might be suggesting that SAAC or other record-keepers use reproduction paperwork to support some type of malfeasance, I would politely suggest you are 100% wrong. We know exactly what came from the Shelby and Ford archives vs. anything submitted by an owner at a later date, and the latter submissions make us wonder: why wasn't a copy of this in the factory records? The fact is, given what our mission is - to document history truthfully - we don't accept documentation on cars with debated history from owners unless it is corroborated elsewhere. Just so you are aware of how we operate.

Ned,

I am not insinuating anything, just pointing out how easy it would be to create bogus documentation. By the way, if you read the details on the referenced/linked site you would see it is real invoices not imitations.

[ALF]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

Ned,

I am not insinuating anything, just pointing out how easy it would be to create bogus documentation. By the way, if you read the details on the referenced/linked site you would see it is real invoices not imitations.

Vernon is well known to this community, selling great SAI items and is a member of this forum.
If someone intends to get criminal by using collector items he is selling, it is not his fault.

[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by ALF

Vernon is well known to this community, selling great SAI items and is a member of this forum.
If someone intends to get criminal by using collector items he is selling, it is not his fault.

Not meant to demean Vernon, just pointing how easy it is to get period correct invoicing materials.

[Nedsel]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

Not meant to demean Vernon, just pointing how easy it is to get period correct invoicing materials.

...none of which would fool anyone on these forums.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

...none of which would fool anyone on these forums.

Nor any educated serious buyer about to plop down a million bucks for an original cobra. Anyone that woukd would also probably be in the market for the Brooklyn Bridge.

The group of buyers in this space are very well educated and have good noses

[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Nor any educated serious buyer about to plop down a million bucks for an original cobra. Anyone that woukd would also probably be in the market for the Brooklyn Bridge.

The group of buyers in this space are very well educated and have good noses

So I am to believe that no one, and I mean no one could fool this bunch? I also wonder just how many fake cars are out there and how many fools have paid literally millions for them?

I for one, and this is my personal opinion, believe that there is one gestating right now in the Encinitas, CA area and will be birthed and named illegitimately shortly.

I will do my best to not let that happen, all we need is for those with damning information make it available, if not on this forum, then in my email box. michael@heinekegroup.com