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11-11-2021, 07:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: La Mirada,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby factory competition Mark II 289ci sgl four barrel
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
That would be a question for them, not us.
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Why is that? We group speak on everything else. Why is it that whenever a question arises regarding SAAC or the management thereof is under the microscope, spines melt?
I am sure there are other discussions that have occurred and information is already public. |
11-11-2021, 07:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Why is that? We group speak on everything else. Why is it that whenever a question arises regarding SAAC or the management thereof is under the microscope, spines melt?
I am sure there are other discussions that have occurred and information is already public.
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When you say "SAAC management", it sounds like SAAC is a fairly large business. But it seems to me that its probably more of an enthusiast hobby for the people in charge and they must have real day jobs to pay their bills. There are a few thousand members and the annual membership fee is $50. Is the annual membership dues collected from all members enough to pay a single person's annual salary after you take out all the expenses for the annual magazine, running the website, etc. I don't know. It seems that registrars like Ned are doing this more for their passion for the cars than getting a few bucks out of it.
Anyway, outside of SAAC, it seems that CompClassics has some information on the lawsuit that got the title back to the guy who apparently bought the wreck. Maybe he knows that timeframe of when the lawsuit took place?
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11-11-2021, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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11-11-2021, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY
Why is it that whenever a question arises regarding SAAC or the management thereof is under the microscope, spines melt?
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It is a turf/control/transparency issue. When it's your turf, and you have control over it, you discourage transparency. Transparency has the potential of disclosing things you don't want others to see while having little upside of increasing your turf and control. It's the nature of business, and most things in life are basically business.  |
11-11-2021, 07:46 PM
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Location: La Mirada,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby factory competition Mark II 289ci sgl four barrel
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It is a turf/control/transparency issue. When it's your turf, and you have control over it, you discourage transparency. Transparency has the potential of disclosing things you don't want others to see while having little upside of increasing your turf and control. It's the nature of business, and most things in life are basically business. |
So....when it's to your personal advantage you clam up and when it is not, you seek transparency.
I would think that we all could benefit from some transparency and not linger in the shadows. Ha! JMHO |
11-11-2021, 08:04 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY
So....when it's to your personal advantage you clam up and when it is not, you seek transparency.
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No, you feign transparency.  |
11-12-2021, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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You are making some interesting comments here, Patrick T. I challenge you to cite specifics. No one at SAAC or with the Registry is hiding a damn thing.
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11-12-2021, 08:22 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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You are making some interesting comments here, Patrick T. I challenge you to cite specifics. No one at SAAC or with the Registry is hiding a damn thing.
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Well, if you represent to me that SAAC, and its members, pass on 100% of each Cobra's build specifications, techniques, and unusual indicia, along with 100% of each car's lineage, and hold back absolutely nothing, for any reason, then I will take you at your word. But, if the response to that is anything other than "yes," then we are just arguing degrees of opaqueness. |
11-11-2021, 07:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY
Why is that? We group speak on everything else. Why is it that whenever a question arises regarding SAAC or the management thereof is under the microscope, spines melt?
I am sure there are other discussions that have occurred and information is already public.
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"WE" are a group of enthusiasts, yes, some of us are SAAC members, but "WE" are not "SAAC MANAGEMENT". Those that manage the club, or as they are known, the board of directors of SAAC, are not us, and we are not them. Hence my original response that you should ask them.
Perhaps:
http://www.saac.com
or
saacforum.com
Bill S.
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11-12-2021, 07:42 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY
Why is that? We group speak on everything else. Why is it that whenever a question arises regarding SAAC or the management thereof is under the microscope, spines melt?
I am sure there are other discussions that have occurred and information is already public.
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No spine-melting here. The car sold to the Netherlands as 2049 (a) had no parts of the original car and (b) was based upon parts that were stolen from Lanse Hasselrig, even though they ended up being tossed out. In as much as they were stolen, there was no legal passing of title. Hence we determined the car in the Netherlands was NOT legally 2049. But because a PA title accompanied the car, the new owner claimed the VIN. Authorities in the US do not recognize it as legitimate and have validated the title of the former owner in CA.
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Last edited by Nedsel; 11-12-2021 at 08:28 AM..
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