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11-18-2021, 07:58 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby factory competition Mark II 289ci sgl four barrel
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Maybe your unnamed expert can get you a copy of the documents from the court case involving the title if the records are available to the public.
Maybe your expert could also see if the Shelby American controller from April 1964 is still alive and interview him to see if he recalls a mechanics lean on a wreck they were storing for over 4 months.
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I have been unable to communicate with my "expert" for over 5 years, I believe he died as the last time I saw him he did not look well. He was not a personal friend so I did not feel comfortable with nor thought it was my right to question his health. At that time he did assist me in acquiring a period correct 289ci engine (January 3, 1963 manufacture) and a front clip for a 289ci Mark II. I originally had in mind to rebuild a car, that now is not possible due to my age and health issues.
I am checking into how I can review or obtain the court records through the California Superior Court system. Lot's of red-tape so far. Anyone out there want to send me a copy use michael@heinekegroup.com.
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11-18-2021, 08:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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I have been unable to communicate with my "expert" for over 5 years, I believe he died as the last time I saw him he did not look well. He was not a personal friend so I did not feel comfortable with nor thought it was my right to question his health. At that time he did assist me in acquiring a period correct 289ci engine (January 3, 1963 manufacture) and a front clip for a 289ci Mark II. I originally had in mind to rebuild a car, that now is not possible due to my age and health issues.
I am checking into how I can review or obtain the court records through the California Superior Court system. Lot's of red-tape so far. Anyone out there want to send me a copy use michael@heinekegroup.com.
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If CompClassics is familiar with the trial, maybe he knows information like a case number, date, court house or something that would be useful in getting a copy of the information.
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11-19-2021, 09:21 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY
I am checking into how I can review or obtain the court records through the California Superior Court system. Lot's of red-tape so far. Anyone out there want to send me a copy use michael@heinekegroup.com.
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You might want to try going directly to the court reporter's agency that the lawyers used not only for the trial and hearing transcripts but, most importantly, pre-trial witness depositions. Contact that agency, or its successor, and see if they'll sell them to you. There's a ton of stuff in depositions that never make it in to a court record (which has probably been lost or destroyed by now) and reading the witness depos just might give you some answers, and maybe some peace of mind. Try shooting Ned a polite PM and, in your most conciliatory and plaintive Mother May I tone, ask him if he'll tell you the reporting agencies that they used. That may be a short cut to getting what you want. 
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11-19-2021, 08:11 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY
I have been unable to communicate with my "expert" for over 5 years, I believe he died as the last time I saw him he did not look well. He was not a personal friend so I did not feel comfortable with nor thought it was my right to question his health. ].
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Did this person possibly have the initials R.C. ?
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11-20-2021, 07:20 PM
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Did this person possibly have the initials R.C. ?
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Yes, they are
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11-20-2021, 08:17 PM
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Yes, they are
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I will guess the investigator you were working with was named Richard ********. If that is correct, you were right to believe he is no longer with us. He is the same individual who said he was working with the FBI and sent us a totally incorrect history of 2049 that made it into the 2008 Registry before we learned he was full of $#!+. He had a brain tumor that his doctor said had rendered critical thought impossible for many years. He left a wonderful trail of lies for SAAC to try and undo for years to come.
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11-21-2021, 09:48 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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I will guess the investigator you were working with was named Richard ********. If that is correct, you were right to believe he is no longer with us. He is the same individual who said he was working with the FBI and sent us a totally incorrect history of 2049 that made it into the 2008 Registry before we learned he was full of $#!+. He had a brain tumor that his doctor said had rendered critical thought impossible for many years. He left a wonderful trail of lies for SAAC to try and undo for years to come.
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Ah yes, C-r-a-n-f-o-r-d not an expert in any sense of the word. I'm sorry for the OP if that is who he was relying on when he started this thread.
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