Rodknock it is political. The harbor bombers as we called them would buy a pos and run it till the wheels fell off the go buy another one. If you lookat the rules they state that one has to show the intention of retrofitting your truck with a dpf. Again pick a part of my anatomy and kiss it Moonbeam. If you look at the geography of California you can understand the problem. Mountains to the east and an onshore breeze from the pacific. Duh. CARB has far too much power. I'm waiting to see if the lawsuit from OOIDA has any effect. Remember it's not the people who are the problem it's politicians and bureaucracy!!!
According to the professor that the author, Allysia Finley, quotes, "Part of California's dysfunction, he says, stems from state and local government restrictions on development. These policies have artificially limited housing supply and put a premium on real estate in coastal regions."
Yes, California is limiting growth to protect its environment. In fact, the article concedes "that such places (example Indy) will have a hard time eclipsing California or Texas because they're not as well endowed by nature." So, do we limit growth to protect our environment? Yes.
Personally, I have no issue with folks that want to move to states with less taxes, like Nevada, Florida, etc. Less traffic, better air quality and a probable reduction in the amount of angry people that don't like being here.
BTW, Allysia Finley lives in NY and writes extensively on California. Ironic that NY just was just eclipsed by Florida as the 3rd most populous state. Yet, I didn't see anything written by her about that topic.
Yes, we have lost a net of 3.4 Million CA residents (using Lippy's #'s) over 20 years to various other states like TX, AZ, OR, NV, etc. due to the CA economy, regulations, high taxes, etc. The migration rate has slowed too. But, we've also had three major recessions in those 20 years, including the biggee in 2008-2009, which greatly affected CA and we're also attempting to protect our environment and clean our air.
CA is the most populus state at roughly 38 Million residents, so less than 10% have left since 1990. Not great, but it doesn't seem like a BFD to me. Our state continues to grow with foreign migration, just like ALL our families came from somewhere else, our air is cleaning up, the enviroment is getting protected and they're predicting a big budget surplus for this fiscal year. The future looks bright to me.
In the last election (2013), the City of Sonoma (wine country) did not pass a hotel limitation measure, so Californians are not all about anti-growth.
CA can't grow forever and CA is far from perfect. We will run out of space. Other states have lots of space. So, you can see the glass as half-empty or half-full. I choose to see it as half-full.
I just got off the phone with Summit/Atech -and C.A.R.B.
It was a Demand Letter / Notification by C.A.R.B in late November that demanded Summit ( and others ) to not sell anything in certain categories to CA residents or face stiff fines (thousands of dollars) per transaction.
The two Categories that the supervisor told me about were Cold-Air-Intakes and Crate Engines , and apparently there are other items that they dont want sold without a CARB approval.
I added my shop ( Panavia.com ) to the list of complaints this AM and offered our assistance in any possible way.
He advised that Summits legal team was working on it and trying to reach a solution with C.A.R.B and would "re-open" the doors if they can...
In the mean time ; I called C.A.R.B in Sacramento this AM and spoke to Stephanie, ( very nice person ) and she could not pull up any information on this blockage from the CARB side, but said she would check it out and have someone call me, and if I did not hear anything in a day or so , - to call her back.
That is where it is; C.A.R.B. has the power to create quite a hassle ...dont they.
More news as it happens.
Steve
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I spoke with a very nice person from there this PM, and he advised that indeed C.A.R.B. has issued a Cease-And-Desist order to several companies ( including summit ) citing what they believe is illegal activity.
it is ARB's opinion that these motors are not being sold with significant enough oversight, and are being installed in post 1965 vehicles.
CARB states that California 1966 to 1975 motor vehicles are still to maintain ALL applicable smog and emissions devices, - and although they are NOT inspected , you are REQUIRED to keep the SMOG systems intact and functional.
I have been forwarded to another office in CARB to register my complaint as a shop, and that they have gone too far with this action.
They could not supply me a copy of the Cease-And-Desist' as it is an ongoing CRIMINAL investigation.
More News As it happens ..... .. . . . .!
Steve
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Around here, we just call them the "Smog Nazis" along with AQMD. They rule and govern under Administrative Law I believe, so they don't need to poll any of us before enacting their rulings. What did Pelosi say a few weeks ago? "Just embrace the suck"! Nice!
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CARB states that California 1966 to 1975 motor vehicles are still to maintain ALL applicable smog and emissions devices, - and although they are NOT inspected , you are REQUIRED to keep the SMOG systems intact and functional.
So rather than enforce the existing laws, far easier politically to tell manufacturers and suppliers to stop selling their wares in CA than to pizz off hundreds of thousands of residents and force them thru annual inspections. That's probably the honest truth. And, ironically, SEMA is headquartered in CA but obviously has little to no political power over Sacramento's elite.
The implications are completely cosmonautical.-- I even tried to bring up Rons GT40 issue with the documentation is incorrect for 1966 and how to approach that, the response was less than enthusiastic.
Glad we have EROD motors, but that is only a partial solution.
Steve
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Hitting all my hot buttons on this.
A good friend and engine builder for Spint Car and blown alcohol drag boats bought a machine shop in the LA area. Borrowed up to his A$$ to buy a machine shop that has been around for 50 or 60 years. Then the EPA and AQMD showed up and told him he had to clean the entire site, including costs to neighboring sites. Cost and fines were more than the property was worth, so he had to walk. He had only been there 2 or 3 years. I believe he went to AZ too.
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I want to add to this conversation although it does not apply to the OP. A small business that does powder coating rented a 3000 sf industrial space from us in Shasta County. Moved his equipment in and did some tenant improvement work to the space. Was told he needed a special use permit in order to bring a gas line into the space for his oven. The county and AQMD wanted over $4,000 in fees and would not be able to approve the permit for at least 4 months. They also wanted to inspect the other tenants for permits. That pretty much killed his operation in our building. We had to let him walk.
John
I want to add to this conversation although it does not apply to the OP. A small business that does powder coating rented a 3000 sf industrial space from us in Shasta County. Moved his equipment in and did some tenant improvement work to the space. Was told he needed a special use permit in order to bring a gas line into the space for his oven. The county and AQMD wanted over $4,000 in fees and would not be able to approve the permit for at least 4 months. They also wanted to inspect the other tenants for permits. That pretty much killed his operation in our building. We had to let him walk.
John
Not Surprised - we have had similar problems pop up.
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We spoke for about 20 mins, and we clarified several technical points.
- she is going to go try to pull a copy of the Cease and Desist action and hopefully we will get a chance to review it with them.
--after all it is a public agency, engaging in a public action against a public company, there is no expectation of privacy and no individuals are named, with the exception of the CAL AIR Board personnel which they are all out in the open as agents of the state.
More news as it happens.
Steve
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An excerpt from an email from someone within "the agency":
"hey, you wanted that high pollutin’ race/classic car. If I had a complaint line to give you, I would send it to you ASAP!! J Don’t feel special, everybody is on their radar, big trucks, old cars, you name it! In the name of clean air! J"
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