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07-08-2009, 06:07 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary, FE, Tremec TKO 600
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Do like Jim Holden did... email them to me. 
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Patrick, if you don't mind I'll take you up on your offer. I'm away from home right now, I'll send them to you as soon as I get back in a few days. Once you guys see this block you won't believe that it took the better part of three months to resolve this issue.
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07-08-2009, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by 767Jockey
Patrick, if you don't mind I'll take you up on your offer. I'm away from home right now, I'll send them to you as soon as I get back in a few days. Once you guys see this block you won't believe that it took the better part of three months to resolve this issue.
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Cool, this will be as much fun as the slabside was. 
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07-08-2009, 05:52 PM
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Location: Driftwood,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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Originally Posted by 767Jockey
Guys, it was like pulling teeth right to the very end, it was made as difficult as it possibly could have been. These guys are brutal, just completely brutal to deal with. I'm planning a long and thorough fully documented thread once this is all done, there's lots you don't know. These guys are just ABSOLUTELY brutal and shameless.
By the way, how do I post pictures to a thread when CC tells me they're too big? I'm a computer zero.
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You could load them to a photo service like Flickr and then paste a link to them using the little yellow mountain button above the post box, or you can load them into your profile using instructions in this thread.
I think its time to get out the 4.250 boring machine and celebrate by boring a big hole in a crappy vendor. 
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07-08-2009, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
You could load them to a photo service like Flickr and then paste a link to them using the little yellow mountain button above the post box, or you can load them into your profile using instructions in this thread.
I think its time to get out the 4.250 boring machine and celebrate by boring a big hole in a crappy vendor. 
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I tried to load them into my profile, that's where I got the message from CC that they were too big.
My goal isn't revenge on these guys, although they deserve that and more. I just want everyone to know before they deal directly with these guys what they'll be up against. Keith Craft tried to warn me, and I was too stupid to listen. That one's on me. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.......
I just want everyone to be forewarned on what this company's idea of customer service is. It's shameful and pitiful.
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07-20-2009, 08:20 PM
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Location: Gilroy,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2291, Whipple Blown & Injected 4V ModMotor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 767Jockey
Guys, it was like pulling teeth right to the very end, it was made as difficult as it possibly could have been. These guys are brutal, just completely brutal to deal with. I'm planning a long and thorough fully documented thread once this is all done, there's lots you don't know. These guys are just ABSOLUTELY brutal and shameless.
By the way, how do I post pictures to a thread when CC tells me they're too big? I'm a computer zero.
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767Jockey,
I am glad you finally have a decent shot at a happy ending. I am waiting anxiously for the blow by blow.
By the way posting pics of the legal posting size is not that hard. Just put the flaps down, keep the nose up, watch your air speed and flare it a little before you touch down ...
Great perseverance, amazing patience and impressive due diligence - you earned a happy ending!
Ed
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Help them do what they would have done if they had known what they could do.
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07-13-2009, 08:08 PM
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Donde esta la el nuevo blocko de alumino?
( I know my Spanish sucks, I am a white Okie.) 
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07-13-2009, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by elmariachi
Donde esta la el nuevo blocko de alumino? 
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and el pictureos of el crappo blocko...
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07-13-2009, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
and el pictureos of el crappo blocko...
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otflmao...
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07-13-2009, 08:56 PM
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Email with pictures was just sent to Patrick. Let me know if it comes through OK. Thanks! 
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07-13-2009, 09:04 PM
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Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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The political correctness and sensitivity is humbling!
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07-13-2009, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mickmate
The political correctness and sensitivity is humbling!
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This is a politically correct and very sensitive crowd here at Club Cobra - haven't you heard? 
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07-13-2009, 09:12 PM
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Here they is....
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07-13-2009, 09:24 PM
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Is that how it arrived or what it looked like after machining on your end? Forgive me if you noted that earlier.
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07-13-2009, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
Is that how it arrived or what it looked like after machining on your end? Forgive me if you noted that earlier.
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On arrival, it looked ok. The main saddles had machine marks in them but no evidence of porosity visible. The cylinder walls had one small nick in them, but again no evidence of porosity in them. My engine builder called them and said that he was concerned, and they said to him, and I quote directly "go ahead and machine it, it'll be fine." When it turned out like this, they told me to go pound sand on the machining bill I was stuck with. My top choice in remedy was a new iron block and they pay for the machining bill, as I was way over budget and have no real desire for an aluminum block - I'd much rather have the $700 back in my pocket. However, they flat out refused this, and my only available remedy was to take the aluminum block, effectively making ME eat the $700. Now, I have to spend ADDITIONAL money to machine the aluminum block. These guys are the poster children for bad customer service. It gets much much worse, all the details will come out once I know the aluminum block is good. This is only the tip of the iceberg. 
Last edited by 767Jockey; 07-13-2009 at 10:29 PM..
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07-13-2009, 09:25 PM
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A thing of beauty, ain't it? Three months, many, many dozens of phone calls, and so much more to resolve this. Unbelievable.
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07-13-2009, 09:27 PM
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Cast iron swiss cheese...........
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07-13-2009, 09:34 PM
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Wow, I am sure glad I didn't buy one of those blocks. From any source. Everybody busted my ba!!s for running 40 year old parts. My FE solid lifter might be junk but it didn't look like that. Good for you for never giving up. Hopefully the aluminum block will bail you out.
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07-14-2009, 05:43 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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You Have But One Option...
I think, if you want an iron FE block, an original or "service block" is pretty much your only viable option nowadays. And, of course, all the major FE engine builders are on record in this forum as saying iron is clearly superior to aluminum in all respects, including weight. 
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08-24-2009, 10:23 PM
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So how are you coming with your engine saga and your build?
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08-24-2009, 11:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
So how are you coming with your engine saga and your build?
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Well..........unfortunately I'm sort of dead in the water right now. The darned block company took so long to resolve the problem (at least I HOPE it's resolved - I assume the new Aluminum block is good, but with these guys from Genesis you never know. I take nothing for granted with them anymore.) that the engine builder couldn't wait anymore and had to move on to customers behind me in line. I am now three engines down the line with him, waiting my turn again. I couldn't ask the guy to wait forever, he's got bills to pay and mouths to feed. He's been doing this a long time with FE's, and when I told him to get me a Genesis block he sort of winced and said "You get it - I don't want to deal with them and their problems." Smart guy, he knew what I was getting into. He tried to talk me out of it, and I wouldn't listen. It was the only iron block available at the time and I jumped on it. I figured "hey, it's brand new - what can go wrong"......If only I knew then what I know now, but that's another story. Anyway, now, because I supplied the block the problem isn't his, it's mine and therefore I lost my place in line. I understand his dilemma. Anyway, looks like next year for me to drive this thing. Thanks, Genesis! As far as the project, I can't do a hell of a lot more right now until I dump the engine and trans into the frame rails. The wiring is about 75% done, but I want the engine in place and the body on the frame before I proceed because I'm to the point where wires have to start being cut to length and I'm trying to do a really neat job - I want lengths to be exact and the whole job very sanitary. I had Nick Acton do a bunch of work for me. He welded in the Classic Chambered 3" core Cobra pack mufflers and had the pipes ceramic coated in white. He also made me a beautiful aluminum Comp gas tank and straps, just a gorgeous piece of work, basically an original Comp tank modified to fit a Contemporary. He's also making me a frame to mount the Fluidyne radiator in the original laid back position, as Contemporary used an upright radiator position similar to Superformance. I want the more original look, and he will be supplying a pusher fan setup with this as well. He's also making me an original style gas pedal / linkage setup for the Contemporary. He's already supplied me with an original type floor mounted pedal box for the brake and clutch pedals. When the car is done I have no doubt that it'll be one of the better Contemporary's out there. When it is done..................whenever that is. 
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