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03-02-2016, 11:38 AM
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Mobil 1 Racing 0w50 oil......not 5w50......big difference..... |
I thought the rule was to never break in an engine with synthetic oil?
Joe Gibbs has a specific break-in oil. I am sure there are others...
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03-02-2016, 06:31 PM
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I agree about the breakin oil but that is what the Ford people told me when I bought the engine. Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.
Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.
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03-02-2016, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clois Harlan
I agree about the breakin oil but that is what the Ford people told me when I bought the engine. Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.
Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow. |
Now that's interesting. I thought most crate engines are delivered with a big tag on them saying "NO OIL!".
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03-03-2016, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clois Harlan
Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.
Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.
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My Ford Racing crate motor came filled with oil and had been run tested. |
03-03-2016, 07:47 AM
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Quote:
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I thought the rule was to never break in an engine with synthetic oil?
Joe Gibbs has a specific break-in oil. I am sure there are others...
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Old wise tale........we've been using synthetic oil in new engines since the 70's.....and most new cars of today have synthetic oils from the beginning...especially the Hi-Performance vehicles....
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03-03-2016, 10:08 AM
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Old wise tale........we've been using synthetic oil in new engines since the 70's.....and most new cars of today have synthetic oils from the beginning...especially the Hi-Performance vehicles....
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Not saying you are wrong, but I have seen Hi-Perf engines that wiped the cam within the first couple of hours and the reason in both cases was using the wrong break-in oil (synthetic). I am sure that if Ford ran it, they used what was appropriate for run-in. 
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03-03-2016, 02:11 PM
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Not saying you are wrong, but I have seen Hi-Perf engines that wiped the cam within the first couple of hours and the reason in both cases was using the wrong break-in oil (synthetic). I am sure that if Ford ran it, they used what was appropriate for run-in. |
Not an issue with the Coyote. True for solid lifter cam, you need ZDDP but roller cam motors don't. Ford knows what works and these come with synthetic from the get go. No worries on break in or down the road. As said, this is no longer the sixties. A friends Boss 302 race car wiped a cam at Watkins in less than 20 miles. He replaced the solid with a roller lifter and gained power as well as no issues with oiling.
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03-03-2016, 02:20 PM
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Not an issue with the Coyote. True for solid lifter cam, you need ZDDP but roller cam motors don't. Ford knows what works and these come with synthetic from the get go. No worries on break in or down the road. As said, this is no longer the sixties. A friends Boss 302 race car wiped a cam at Watkins in less than 20 miles. He replaced the solid with a roller lifter and gained power as well as no issues with oiling.
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Thanks Cashburn. I guess I'm still a little in the old school. And no, I don't have a SFT engine (anymore).! Yes, I have seen the same thing twice and both changed to rollers. No hope for Patrick though!  
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03-03-2016, 04:49 PM
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Thanks Cashburn. I guess I'm still a little in the old school. And no, I don't have a SFT engine (anymore).! Yes, I have seen the same thing twice and both changed to rollers. No hope for Patrick though! |
Whoh!!! Crashburn? Who made me Jay?!?!?
I'm pretty sure Jay will be offended at you thinking he is I!
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03-03-2016, 04:54 PM
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Whoh!!! Crashburn? Who made me Jay?!?!?
I'm pretty sure Jay will be offended at you thinking he is I!
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Not sure where I strayed there, but sorry if I offended someone. Just a poke at PatrickT about his SFT setup. 
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