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11-26-2006, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Agoura,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPC Brock/Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe 51, Roush 427IR, also full custom 600+ HP Austin Healey and Ferrari Daytona spyder
Posts: 109
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It seems a bit high to me but, without knowing how much Dennis charged for the install, I can only compare it to my SPF coupe which has a Roush aluminim 427 with 8 stack digital fuel injection (DFI), a lot of sorting out and improvements including removeable tranny cross brace, reworked seats and leather tunnel, power windows, remote door and hatch latches all around, stereo, undertray, etc., etc. I did my own install and sorting out so all I have are material costs which came to around $100,000 excluding sales taxes. The aluminum 427 and DFI add about $15,000 to the sales price of a basic Roush engine (candidly well worth it if you're going to keep the car and spread the cost out over the years you intend to own it and you won't end up saying "I wish I got the 427" and /or "DFI"). That said, the material cost alone for a SPF coupe with a basic engine package is about $85,000. Assuming install is $10,000 and however much more to sort out (and, yes, there is a fair amount of sorting out), I would figure a basic sorted out coupe to cost under $100,000 excluding taxes.
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11-26-2006, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Glenwood Landing or Southampton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, FRP460 Big Block
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Timing IS everything, Excaliber. Thanks for reminding me about the virtue of patience  I've been window shopping for a Coupe to complete my dream of a Shelby garage and I've never really seen the SPF Coupe up close. I saw 2 this past holiday weekend and I was thoroughly impressed by the fit and finish. I didn't get to drive 1 but I will.
rc, appreciate the numbers. Very helpful to have in the back pocket in my quest. I agree on the alloy 427 but I may go for 4X48IDAs instead of the DFI. I realize the advantages of DFI but I've installed Webers on my GT40 and I think I can handle the stress of sorting them out  The digital part of FI intimidates me more...
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New York
SPF#1052 11mpg
CAV GT40 MONO29 9mpg
'94 35th Anniversary Rover Mini Cooper 32mpg
'01 MB CL600 V12 18mpg
'08 Volvo S80 18mpg
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11-26-2006, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Agoura,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPC Brock/Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe 51, Roush 427IR, also full custom 600+ HP Austin Healey and Ferrari Daytona spyder
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I also have a Ferrari Daytona spyder with 6 dual throat Webers and, while balancing 12 velocity stacks is time consuming, it does run smooth once warmed up but it doesn't compare to the smoothness and balance of the DFI. Don't get me wrong, I love the sight of 8 velocity stacks on top of 4 dual throat Webers (not as nice as 12 but still very nice) and if authenticity was the goal, ie, a McCluskey Daytona coupe, that would be the way to go but with a SPF Brock/Shelby Daytona coupe authenticity isn't the goal, driveability is. Roush programs/maps the DFI and all you have to do is install it. I suppose it could be better, anything can, so once the warranty is up and, if you want, you can go into the program and remap it. However, Roush already spent a lot of time sorting it out so you have to ask yourself if you really need to. You can go in before the warranty is up but then you'll void the warranty. My car lights up every time, even when cold, is smooth through the entire RPM range, is driveable in LA fereeway stop and go traffic, driveable at low R's, great on the track, smooth right up to the rev limiter - which comes far too quickly it revs so fast. So, having driven both set-ups quite a bit, I have to admit that the DFI is far superior on both the road and the track.
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11-26-2006, 03:05 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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Ray, I looked at a SPF coupe before I got the GT40 and it was a well sorted out unit with a nice stroked Roush motor (carbed). I passed since I just cant get passed the rear end but it probably is more practical than the 40. It sold for 74K.That was about 8 months ago. I think 105 is way much for that car. There are quite a few out there and one will pop up with your name on it. chuck
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11-27-2006, 10:55 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Glenwood Landing or Southampton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, FRP460 Big Block
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Originally Posted by ENTDOC
Ray, I looked at a SPF coupe before I got the GT40 and it was a well sorted out unit with a nice stroked Roush motor (carbed). I passed since I just cant get passed the rear end but it probably is more practical than the 40. It sold for 74K.That was about 8 months ago. I think 105 is way much for that car. There are quite a few out there and one will pop up with your name on it. chuck
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I know what you're saying about the rear
...and the GT40. I love mine and love driving it but I would never get away with driving it anywhere within 10 miles of NYC. The coupe may even be driveable into the city. And I don't think it would be cop bait like the GT40 is (last 4 times I had it out, I got stopped each time) It is really a modern car the way Pete Brock has re-designed it. What a gorgeaus car in any color. I'm in love but I think I'll wait for the "right one".
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New York
SPF#1052 11mpg
CAV GT40 MONO29 9mpg
'94 35th Anniversary Rover Mini Cooper 32mpg
'01 MB CL600 V12 18mpg
'08 Volvo S80 18mpg
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11-27-2006, 01:36 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Cobra Make, Engine: SPC #0039, 427R Roush
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Agreed that $105K is high. Another consideration, however, is the fact that it hopefully is/was titled and/or registered in NY. That in itself can be time and $$$ savings. A NEW coupe can pose some issues when it comes time to inspect/register the car.
It IS a beauty though...
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11-30-2006, 05:07 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Glenwood Landing or Southampton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, FRP460 Big Block
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Rick, car's registered in Virginia as a '65. The SPF0XX VIN will probably flag it at NYDMV as my Cobra did. A hassle with re-registering but doable. They just want their tax $$.
Anyway, I decided to take a ride down to Bill Ostrauer's (Snakepit) to pick up the E-Brake upgrade for the Cobra, whew! $500! and there was a brand new Coupe roller there in sunset red. Many improvements since car 100 it seems; and can be had for just under 70K. Add $15K for the powertrain and assembly and $85K would be about right.
I think I'll ride over the the Porche dealer and test drive the Cayman 
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New York
SPF#1052 11mpg
CAV GT40 MONO29 9mpg
'94 35th Anniversary Rover Mini Cooper 32mpg
'01 MB CL600 V12 18mpg
'08 Volvo S80 18mpg
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