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Old 04-09-2010, 11:50 AM
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Maybe the R needs more curvature. I like how the "A" and the "C" wrap each other like a glove.

Just out of curiosity, does the badge need the two dots?
Right on both counts. No dots, and the letters need to be squished together so they wrap around each other.
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Old 04-09-2010, 11:51 AM
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Maybe the R needs more curvature. I like how the "A" and the "C" wrap each other like a glove.

Just out of curiosity, does the badge need the two dots?
You better get busy designing the Kirkham badges.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:49 PM
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Thinner script is an option. Thicker, more molded-together letters are an opposing option. Dots are there because Bob sticks them in most places - I don't care for them myself. E-R-A does not naturally mold together as well as A-C so there have to be some compromises. And that A is giving me fits, so don't critique too specifically there. The end of this will be very smooth and integrated, the curves and thicknesses will all match, etc. Typography, even artistic typography, boils down to the subtlest variations in letterform - a miniscule tweak can change something from perfect to horrid or vice versa.

Patrick - yes, I have a bit of experience at this. About 30 years' worth.
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You better get busy designing the Kirkham badges.
Kirkham has a fantastic logo, one of the best in the business and one of the best I've ever seen. Throw a shape around it and it's done.
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Patrick - yes, I have a bit of experience at this. About 30 years' worth.
I didn't ask. That was my evil twin, RodKnock, that has the inquiring mind....

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Gunner, are you a graphic designer/"arteest"?
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:16 PM
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Gunner, sorry, just tossing in my $0.02. I've got no creative ability and no ERA. However, if I ever did get an ERA, a nice ERA badge would be fantastic.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:25 PM
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I've got no creative ability and no ERA. However, if I ever did get an ERA, a nice ERA badge would be fantastic.
Something like this?

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Old 04-09-2010, 01:38 PM
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Thinner script is an option. Thicker, more molded-together letters are an opposing option. Dots are there because Bob sticks them in most places - I don't care for them myself. E-R-A does not naturally mold together as well as A-C so there have to be some compromises. And that A is giving me fits, so don't critique too specifically there. The end of this will be very smooth and integrated, the curves and thicknesses will all match, etc. Typography, even artistic typography, boils down to the subtlest variations in letterform - a miniscule tweak can change something from perfect to horrid or vice versa.

Patrick - yes, I have a bit of experience at this. About 30 years' worth.

Gunner ...

I think you are right on with you own assessment, the 'A' is the tough part. Making it not look almost like an 'R', is the real challenge ... keep up the good work!
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:27 PM
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Something like this?

No, no, no.

I don't like the "concavity."
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:39 PM
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I like Gunners attempt. It would look good in something close to the original Cobra colors.

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Old 04-09-2010, 03:25 PM
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No, no, no.

I don't like the "concavity."
OK, remember... the only graphics talent I have is at twisting the truth.
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Old 04-09-2010, 03:26 PM
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Some rough sketches to build on what Gunner started and others have suggested - the steering wheel and badge 1 scripts are not quite an imitation of the AC script, but more of a tribute.

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Old 04-09-2010, 03:28 PM
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Man, Buzz... excellent!!
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Buzz...great job!
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Re: Buzz' designs

1). I like Badge 2 better than Badge 3

2). Steering wheel badge good--could also use Badge 2 design for hub

3). Side badge good, too--maybe 427 could appear in there somewhere also

Nice work, Buzz!
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At this rate, I won't have to do any work at all!
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Happy to contribute, Bob.

Nice work, Buzz. I like the way you tucked the lower serifs together - I was thinking of something like that as a next step. I didn't want to get deep into a design only to have everyone yell Ooh Yuck. (If you're going to keep working at a layout, I suggest you work at a plain B/W high-res design that can be adapted into a finished medallion, and create the pictorials from it. It's hard to go backward from comps to a precision layout.)
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:29 PM
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Thanks Gunner - no real need to go backwards - all of the pics are gussied up renderings of vector drawings in Illustrator. They are rough - gaps are not precise and elements are not perfectly centered; but if needed they can be adjusted and cleaned up in minutes and made production ready. I'm not an ERA owner but I really like the brand so I'm happy to pitch in and get some nice emblems designed.
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Evolution of a legend. I still can't find a way to smoosh the letters together AC style but this evokes something of the same feel. EDIT: Replaced with tweaked version. Own comments deleted.

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Gunner, that looks awesome. The A looks much better than the previous version. You might consider filling out the upper right of the R a bit, and maybe bring out the inner serif of the right limb of the R to fill the curve. Maybe not, but consider it.
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