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04-09-2010, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Maybe the R needs more curvature. I like how the "A" and the "C" wrap each other like a glove.
Just out of curiosity, does the badge need the two dots?
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You better get busy designing the Kirkham badges. 
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04-09-2010, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got the Bug
You better get busy designing the Kirkham badges. |
Kirkham has a fantastic logo, one of the best in the business and one of the best I've ever seen. Throw a shape around it and it's done.
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04-09-2010, 12:49 PM
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Thinner script is an option. Thicker, more molded-together letters are an opposing option. Dots are there because Bob sticks them in most places - I don't care for them myself. E-R-A does not naturally mold together as well as A-C so there have to be some compromises. And that A is giving me fits, so don't critique too specifically there. The end of this will be very smooth and integrated, the curves and thicknesses will all match, etc. Typography, even artistic typography, boils down to the subtlest variations in letterform - a miniscule tweak can change something from perfect to horrid or vice versa.
Patrick - yes, I have a bit of experience at this. About 30 years' worth. 
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04-09-2010, 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner
Patrick - yes, I have a bit of experience at this. About 30 years' worth. |
I didn't ask. That was my evil twin, RodKnock, that has the inquiring mind....
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Gunner, are you a graphic designer/"arteest"?
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04-09-2010, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner
Thinner script is an option. Thicker, more molded-together letters are an opposing option. Dots are there because Bob sticks them in most places - I don't care for them myself. E-R-A does not naturally mold together as well as A-C so there have to be some compromises. And that A is giving me fits, so don't critique too specifically there. The end of this will be very smooth and integrated, the curves and thicknesses will all match, etc. Typography, even artistic typography, boils down to the subtlest variations in letterform - a miniscule tweak can change something from perfect to horrid or vice versa.
Patrick - yes, I have a bit of experience at this. About 30 years' worth. |
Gunner ...
I think you are right on with you own assessment, the 'A' is the tough part. Making it not look almost like an 'R', is the real challenge ... keep up the good work! |
04-09-2010, 01:16 PM
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Gunner, sorry, just tossing in my $0.02. I've got no creative ability and no ERA. However, if I ever did get an ERA, a nice ERA badge would be fantastic.
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04-09-2010, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I've got no creative ability and no ERA. However, if I ever did get an ERA, a nice ERA badge would be fantastic.
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Something like this?
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04-09-2010, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
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Something like this?
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No, no, no. 
I don't like the "concavity." |
04-09-2010, 02:39 PM
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I like Gunners attempt. It would look good in something close to the original Cobra colors.
John
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04-09-2010, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
No, no, no.
I don't like the "concavity." |
OK, remember... the only graphics talent I have is at twisting the truth. |
04-09-2010, 03:26 PM
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Some rough sketches to build on what Gunner started and others have suggested - the steering wheel and badge 1 scripts are not quite an imitation of the AC script, but more of a tribute. 
Steering wheel:
Badge1:
Badge2:
Badge3:
Side:
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04-09-2010, 03:28 PM
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Man, Buzz... excellent!!
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04-09-2010, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz
Some rough sketches ....
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Buzz,
The badges are great, and this side badge is very cool as well!
Any thoughts as to the following:
ERA 427
ERA 289
ERA 289
FIA (text centered of course)
Just wondering what they would look like ... not that they would ever be produced. |
04-09-2010, 07:06 PM
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Gunner, why not try tilting the ERA somewhere between 10 to 15 degrees counterclockwise.....might look good and add some fluidity to the design.
Am really enjoying the "birth of a badge".
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04-09-2010, 03:32 PM
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Buzz...great job!
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04-09-2010, 04:49 PM
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04-09-2010, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
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Bob,
You are right ... Gunner, Buzz and others have some great ideas. The tough part will be picking one these, or elements of a few to be combined together? Looks like you and the ERA crew will have some great suggestions to work with if you decide to proceed.
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04-09-2010, 04:49 PM
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Re: Buzz' designs
1). I like Badge 2 better than Badge 3
2). Steering wheel badge good--could also use Badge 2 design for hub
3). Side badge good, too--maybe 427 could appear in there somewhere also
Nice work, Buzz!
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04-09-2010, 04:53 PM
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Happy to contribute, Bob.
Nice work, Buzz. I like the way you tucked the lower serifs together - I was thinking of something like that as a next step. I didn't want to get deep into a design only to have everyone yell Ooh Yuck. (If you're going to keep working at a layout, I suggest you work at a plain B/W high-res design that can be adapted into a finished medallion, and create the pictorials from it. It's hard to go backward from comps to a precision layout.)
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04-09-2010, 05:29 PM
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Thanks Gunner - no real need to go backwards - all of the pics are gussied up renderings of vector drawings in Illustrator. They are rough - gaps are not precise and elements are not perfectly centered; but if needed they can be adjusted and cleaned up in minutes and made production ready. I'm not an ERA owner but I really like the brand so I'm happy to pitch in and get some nice emblems designed.
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