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07-29-2010, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
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Will the LED's in just the rear lights overload the system?
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The problem isn't overloading. The LEDs draw less current than the standard bulbs. Some flashers need a certain amount of load current to work, so having LEDs might require a different type of flasher.
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07-29-2010, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strictlypersonl
The problem isn't overloading. The LEDs draw less current than the standard bulbs. Some flashers need a certain amount of load current to work, so having LEDs might require a different type of flasher.
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So, would it be prudent to do the LED upgrade to rear only and maybe possibly do the front like Doug plans to do? I kinda have an anti-Midas touch. Everything I touch breaks. 
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07-29-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
OK, I'm kinda interested. Without having to access my garage, can someone tell me how I get to my rear bulbs in my Kirkham?
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If you can't access them from the trunk like the ERAs, then I would guess that your set up is the same as a CSX. You can lay on your back and look up and see them as they aren't covered by anything. The easiest way to remove them is to kneel by the back corner of the car, reach up and feel the bulb and "unscrew" them. Make sure they are cool before you do that. 
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07-29-2010, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dcdoug
If you can't access them from the trunk like the ERAs, then I would guess that your set up is the same as a CSX. You can lay on your back and look up and see them as they aren't covered by anything. The easiest way to remove them is to kneel by the back corner of the car, reach up and feel the bulb and "unscrew" them. Make sure they are cool before you do that. 
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I believe Kirkhams require the use of a SawzAll on the rear quarter panel in order to change the bulb. 
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07-29-2010, 11:51 AM
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Make sure they are cool before you do that. 
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I may be dumb, but not that dumb.
Why is it that when I ask a technical question, Patrick always answers with Sawzall usage? 
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07-29-2010, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Why is it that when I ask a technical question, Patrick always answers with Sawzall usage? 
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As an alternative to the SawzAll you can gently grasp the bulb while you simultaneously lift the entire car and rotate the car a quarter turn counter-clockwise. 
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07-29-2010, 11:57 AM
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I may be dumb, but not that dumb. 
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Since you can't see them when you do it that way, it's all feel and it's easier than you think to find out they aren't cool yet. 
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07-29-2010, 12:39 PM
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OK, I ordered a set.
Patrick can you bring your SawzAll or help me rotate my car so that I can install them?
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07-29-2010, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
OK, I ordered a set.
Patrick can you bring your SawzAll or help me rotate my car so that I can install them?
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Check your existing bulb configuration first. I recall when I gave the PNs to Dave Brown, his Kirkham used something different than the 1156/57. That may have changed in later cars.
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07-29-2010, 12:59 PM
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Too late. I ordered them.
If I can't use them, then I'll offer them here to those with 1157's.
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07-29-2010, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Too late. I ordered them.
If I can't use them, then I'll offer them here to those with 1157's.
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I'll hold off ordering some (my existing LEDs are ok). If they don't work for your application, I'll just buy them from you.
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07-29-2010, 01:23 PM
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I hear they don't make them anymore, immediately stopped making them after I ordered them. So as any commodity in limited supply, they've gone up in price.
Doug, you da man. Dave has an early Kirkham, maybe 180-something. I have 539. I would like this to be an easy upgrade for my car.
I have this problem of other cars following me very closely when I drive my car. Often times, they're driving and taking pictures with their phone at the same time.  So I get worried.
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07-29-2010, 01:45 PM
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I have this problem of other cars following me very closely...
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Dude-you're driving a 600HP car WAY TOO SLOW!
-Uhh, do they ask YOU if that's James Bonds's car??
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07-29-2010, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I have this problem of other cars following me very closely when I drive my car. Often times, they're driving and taking pictures with their phone at the same time.  So I get worried.
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With your new LED rear lights, you'll be able to flick your tail light switch up and they will politely back off believing it to be your brakes. 
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07-29-2010, 02:47 PM
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With your new LED rear lights, you'll be able to flick your tail light switch up and they will politely back off believing it to be your brakes. 
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Flick what tail light switch? Is that an ERA only item.
Chas, it really doesn't matter how fast I'm going, they follow me like flies on...uh, I mean, white on rice.
Now I haven't really said "Goodbye and Goodnight" yet either.
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07-29-2010, 03:36 PM
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With your new LED rear lights, you'll be able to flick your tail light switch up and they will politely back off believing it to be your brakes. 
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'Politely back off...? '
You got rear-ended while standing still (IIRC) and your (dim, old 1157) lights didn't stop that from happening. With the moron content out there you could be a bonfire and still get hit...
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07-29-2010, 03:48 PM
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I will go into cardiac arrest right here right now if someone mentions installing a third brake light.
Notwithstanding a brighter brake light is a brighter idea.
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07-29-2010, 06:56 PM
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With all the glitches I'm having with my new SPF, you guys crack me up and make life livable! Hopefully one day mine will be sorted. 209
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08-01-2010, 01:55 PM
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I put LEDs in the tail lights this afternoon. Big improvement - thanks for the push to get me off my arse to do it.
Definitely worth the investment of $50 and 5 min to make a pretty substantial safety upgrade. 
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08-01-2010, 03:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
I put LEDs in the tail lights this afternoon. Big improvement - thanks for the push to get me off my arse to do it.
Definitely worth the investment of $50 and 5 min to make a pretty substantial safety upgrade. 
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My real motive was to bait RodKnock in to making the upgrade himself. Somehow I know he's going to screw up the installation and it will be good for some laughs. 
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