Best approach to bleeding the brakes

[DanEC]

The thing is I think the above procedures Patrick and Bret are discussing are fine for an existing, air free system and flushing out old fluid with new. But, I question that it will work that well on an empty system filled with a lot of air. There is so much air coming through the system and in the plastic tube, that if you don't shut off the bleeder at the bottom of each stroke of the pedal, it draws air back in from the tube (not to mention from around the bleeder screw itself).

I think to get a new, empty, air-filled system filled and bled the first time, that either the Phoenix system of pressure bleeding from the brake or the good old -stroke pedal down and hold -open bleeder - shut bleeder - release pedal - stroke pedal and hold - open bleeder - etc, etc are going to work more reliably.

The Motive Bleeder system to pressure bleed from the top is a highly recommended system but I just don't think it's compatible with the little Girling brake fluid cans.

But I appreciate all the input.