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Old 07-24-2018, 04:00 PM
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I've got to think having the end supports, even though they are not bolted down, has got to be a big improvement over not having them.
Now there's what I wanted to know.

How does that offer any more structure rigidity?
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:29 PM
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Now there's what I wanted to know.

How does that offer any more structure rigidity?
On my T&D system, the outer rocker arm and the one next to it is supported by a single integral unit. Better explained with a picture.

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Now there's what I wanted to know.

How does that offer any more structure rigidity?
This was a pretty good thread on end stands and several posts address that very issue: https://www.fordfe.com/end-stand-sup...ot-t90234.html
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Seems like it kind of converts the single shear mounting of the end into a double shear version. Which is always beneficial, because it takes the flexing of the end away.
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The end stands incorporate the end plate, so tying the assembly together as one.
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Passenger side, so far nothing out of ordinary
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Yep, that'll do it. BTW, what's that crud on #6 rocker? Looks crystalized, but mayber its just the photo?
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It feels like dry oil if that makes sense. I'd really now like to replace the valve train with a nice new roller set-up or something more modern, like Ted's.
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Yep, that's the problem. But that's really not too serious... and you needed a new rocker system anyway.
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It feels like dry oil if that makes sense. I'd really now like to replace the valve train with a nice new roller set-up or something more modern, like Ted's.
I'm with you on that one!!!
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It’s going to Jim Coleman on Monday, likely a Harland Sharp roller setup.
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all of those pushrods look mighty close to the intake, i would check each one for rub marks, you may need some intake massaging....an orifice enlarging mission
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The very few of these system I saw had shims on the shafts to move the pushrods slightly to center them on the valves and in the holes.

As mentioned, keep a very close eye on those pushrods when mounting the new system.
Somebody working more on FEs can add more to this, which I am keen to learn about.
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I suspect that Jim will need to pull that head off to find out if the #8 piston has been damaged by the valves which were just bouncing around. (in which case he will probably pull both heads off and the intake manifold) I have the Harland-Sharp roller rockers in my FE and so far they are working really nicely. He will probably use new pushrods and new head bolt sets as well. He will most likely inspect the heads to make sure they are in good shape. I have seen a set of OE FE heads with massive port erosion yet most are just fine.

Is the ERA being worked on in Jims bay or in one of the bays inside Automotive Restorations facility?
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I suspect that Jim will need to pull that head off to find out if the #8 piston has been damaged by the valves which were just bouncing around. (in which case he will probably pull both heads off and the intake manifold) I have the Harland-Sharp roller rockers in my FE and so far they are working really nicely. He will probably use new pushrods and new head bolt sets as well. He will most likely inspect the heads to make sure they are in good shape. I have seen a set of OE FE heads with massive port erosion yet most are just fine.

Is the ERA being worked on in Jims bay or in one of the bays inside Automotive Restorations facility?
No need to pull the head off.

It's only a broken rocker shaft.

Loss of one valve, gives a bit of noise, and a misfire.

2 hours work and 8 cylinders again.
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Just for grins, I'd want to take a peek at the top of the piston, but I'd be satisfied with looking with a bore scope and not going through the work of pulling intake and head. There are many, hand held/w their own screen, for under $100. Also, there are many scopes that work from and app through a smart phone, using the phone's screen. I've seen these for under $20 and the one I have works just fine.
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Just for grins, I'd want to take a peek at the top of the piston, but I'd be satisfied with looking with a bore scope and not going through the work of pulling intake and head. There are many, hand held/w their own screen, for under $100. Also, there are many scopes that work from and app through a smart phone, using the phone's screen. I've seen these for under $20 and the one I have works just fine.

Great idea.... saves a ton of work for sure!
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There are many, hand held/w their own screen, for under $100.
The one I got was garbage. Broke after two uses. Couldn't see anything on the low-res screen anyway.

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Also, there are many scopes that work from and app through a smart phone, using the phone's screen. I've seen these for under $20 and the one I have works just fine.
Which one do you have? I've been looking at these but wasn't sure how well they work.
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The one I got was garbage. Broke after two uses. Couldn't see anything on the low-res screen anyway.



Which one do you have? I've been looking at these but wasn't sure how well they work.
I have one of "those" phone app scopes and it works fine, Camera FI as I remember the name. Here's a picture of my buddy's 68 Dodge Charger's camshaft where the fuel pump shaft rides. All pictures were taken through the fuel pump shaft hole.
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