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Old 11-24-2018, 04:14 PM
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Hi, I know the car's are not wired for the red alt/charge light, but thought there was a drawing online here that showed how to make it functional. any help would be great thanks Bob
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Old 11-24-2018, 05:24 PM
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ERA uses the same standard wiring setup for an ignition light that was used on a billion different cars in the sixties. It's very easy to do. Here's the schematic:


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You'll need to run another wire from the voltage regulator to the warning light (after disconnecting the red jumper at the regulator). You'll need a wire from the fuel level power to the light and to a shunt resistor. I'll check on Monday whether I've got all the details worked out somewhere. I may have already done it for the older 427s.

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thank you both for the quick reply
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Rather than a charge light, I used my red indicator light for my radiator fan. I'm hard of hearing and more than once, I'd left my fan running, after having used the manual switch. Fortunately, someone passing by did notice and brought it to my attention. Now, with the red light glaring me in the eye, I always know the fan is running. Just another 2Ę plain.
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Or another option (if you are looking for options), I made my red indicator serve as a low oil pressure warning light. Wired in with a standard idiot light sender that you can purchase at any auto parts store. It also serves as ignition on light when engine is not running.
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Amazon has a complete unit, I use it and itís perfect
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Itís called low voltage sensor for alternators
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The Slabside wiring diagram Peter sent me last week shows the circuit Patrick posted. If that circuit's not implemented (i.e. the red light is unused), what's connected to the I terminal on the regulator? Is it the red jumper Bob mentioned?
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No, if you're not going to use the red light, then you need to wire it a bit differently. Like this:

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All FIAs and early (> chassis 634) used the system w/o the ignition light. Later 427s and all Slabsides use a warning light (the I connection is used).
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thanks Bob
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I have the Lucas red warning light (for authenticity) but have not wired it up yet. I have the Powermaster 1-wire internally regulated alternator. I found this Ron Francis unit on amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Low-Volt-Sens...cm_wl_huc_item

But it doesnt give instructions on where to install it or how to wire it up - has anyone tried this?
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If you go to his web site, you will be able to find the following installation guide, which is NOT on Amazon (Sadly).... here is the link to the guide.... it also explains the function to some degree.
I wonder what the definition of Low Voltage is however? Less that 12.6V? It does not say. Looks to be a fairly simple hookup.

https://www.ronfrancis.com/images/LS11-INST.pdf
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I wonder what the definition of Low Voltage is however? Less that 12.6V? It does not say.
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The low voltage sensor has been designed to monitor the vehicles charging system. If the vehicle voltage drops below approximately 11 volts the module mounted L.E.D light will illuminate indicating a problem.
Eleven volts? I don't know how helpful that really is.
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Yah that seems pretty low IMHO, It would be nice to have some dip switches to set the low limit but that would certainly ADD to the overall cost of the device. BTW the Ron Francis website has loads of really nice stuff. I especially like the shrink wrap tubing that looks like old school woven fabric.
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I realize this is an older thread, however I did want to share with you all that I decided to add the Ron Francis LS-11 low voltage sensor. Even though it triggers at 11V , which I know is low ...
Website: LS-11 Lo Voltage Sensor-Ron Francis Wiring

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I have a 1wire Alternator/No Voltage Regulator in ... SPO2454 so the Red Warning light is Non-functioning as-is in the dash.

My rationale is:
1) My Headlights are wired "ON" during normal driving which puts a constant load, around 5-6amps on my system during driving/ignition switch ON.
2) I turn my cooling fans on at around 90C (rather than let the auto sensor at 100C turn them on). I believe they draw close to 20amps..
I felt these loads would definitely accelerate draining my battery quickly if my alternate fails...

My hook up of the LS-11 was pretty easy. There is an Extra Switched Ignition HOT line that I used off the fuse box. For the GND I used the chassis where the 12V cigarette lighter/auxiliary port is.

Anyway .. just wanted to share my logic..
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IMHO, 11V is way too low to be useful. It means the battery hasn't been charged in a long while. ~12.2V (engine above idle speed) is a good indication that the system is malfunctioning, either from a a super-high draw or low output from the alternator.
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You do realize that you have an ammeter gauge that will let you know if your charging system is or isnít working properly?
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Thanks all....
Yes I do realize the ammeter indicates charging or not.... However my ammeter like others will go into Neg range with Fans/Headlights ON occasionally when my battery is fully charged during cruising ...

I just feel that the Red Light is there for a reason, it was designed into the Cobra for a purpose and thus I added the LS11 11V sensor. It will most likely never go on, probably considered wasteful ...

Many thanks for the comments..... thanks again.
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I used the original Ford pickup bed cargo light indicator light that was used in the 289 slabsides . It comes apart to allow me to install three tiny "grain of wheat" bulbs (available from hobby shops.) Two are wired in parallel (for redundancy) to an oil pressure "idiot light" sensor and one is wired as a charge light. My theory as to why Shelby wanted such a big light in easy view is that in a race if you lost a fan belt it would alert the driver. In contrast he picked the tiniest light in Ford's parts box for the high beam indicator as it wouldn't distract the driver in a race. That light was used in 1940 Ford pickups!
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