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				04-28-2005, 04:00 PM
			
			
			
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				 Bob-- Please help 
 Hi Bob,I spoke with Peter today after you left work about shipping me a clutch slave cylinder setup.
 I supplied my car builder a complete 351/408W set up with a 15-200 Lakewood shield with a top loader (small spline) a Ford #7515-2A fork all set up ready to drop in the car.
 Easy right?
 He  has informed me it is impossible to set up a slave cylinder to operate the clutch. The angle of the dangle does not correspond with the protracted radius of the hoojit!
 IDIOT!!!!!!!
 As I live several hours away from his shop it is difficult to go there & sort him out, that is why I need your help (sob,sob)
 As he is three months behind schedule already I don't need to give him any excuses to hold things up.
 Could you possibly send me a photo or two of your setup that I have ordered mounted on a assembly that I could show this @##$%@&*%# IDIOT.
 Thanking you in advance for your help,
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 Craig
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				04-29-2005, 04:00 PM
			
			
			
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 PLEASEAnybody with photos???? Please I need help here.
 Idiot's driving me nut's.
 6 month's ago he knew everthing--- now he can't even figure this out.
 I THINK I'M IN TROUBLE HERE!!!!!!!
 Any help is appreciated.
 Craig
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				04-29-2005, 04:04 PM
			
			
			
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						CA Cobra Make, Engine: E.R.A. FIA #2088 1964 289 w/Webers  
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 I wish I could but I'm not that far yet myself...   Does he have the manual?  Or do you? 
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				04-29-2005, 04:34 PM
			
			
			
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 I had a similar, if not the same problem during the build of my cobra recently. The clutch fork angle did not work with the Lakewood and Tremec tranny as it had with McLeods on numerous previous builds (McLeods were unavailable - possibly still are). The solution my shop came up with was to machine away a small part of the bell housing and use a slightly different TO bearing. Works like a charm.
 Perhaps you should give my guy a call: Johney Jackson at Autotek in Scottsdale, AZ @ 480-483-7535.
 
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				04-29-2005, 05:28 PM
			
			
			
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 Cdnus,I'm not sure I understand your whole post but, not to be obvious, the installation requires a MASTER pressurizing a SLAVE cylinder.  Maybe your guy means there's no master?
 On ERA's, the master mounts to a chassis bracket, and the slave mounts to a bracket on your block. The master is fed by the brake reservior and then braided line from master to slave . The slave actuates the adjusting rod which moves the fork.
 Go to ERA's manual on their site if you don't have a manual.
 Good luck,
 
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				04-29-2005, 05:29 PM
			
			
			
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						CA Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #629, BBM Side Oiler Block, 482ci, Richmond 5 speed 
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 Your in luck.  I happen to have my ERA up on jackstands repairing a speedometer gear.  I took a couple of pictures for you.  I'm uploading them to my gallery now.
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				04-29-2005, 05:45 PM
			
			
			
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 Cdnus,I'm assuming you have an ERA-FIA (408 Windsor)?
 CJ428's- 427 car is slightly different in the cylinder mounts-but the idea is the same.
 
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				04-29-2005, 06:11 PM
			
			
			
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 Thanks ERA Chas,I know exactly how it's supposed to work, but this idiot I hired to build the car says it's impossible to get a slave to work or mounted on my application---refer to my first post.
 Like I said--- I think I'm in trouble.
 If I was 20 yrs younger I would be building this car myself, but at 63yrs my knees just won't allow it anymore. I have built many performance cars over the years & know how easy all this stuff is but this guy  constantly seems to hit roadblocks. Iwould just like a few photos to send him.
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				04-29-2005, 06:26 PM
			
			
			
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 Thanks CJ428Great photo's, I see you have a 428 B/B. I have a 408W with a top loader so I assume I would require something a little different.
 Help much appreciated though.
 Craig
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				04-29-2005, 06:37 PM
			
			
			
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 ERA CHASCould you please direct me to the ERA manual site
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				04-29-2005, 07:22 PM
			
			
			
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				04-30-2005, 05:56 AM
			
			
			
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 Craig,
 Did you get my e-mail with the manual page pertaining to the slave mounting?
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				04-30-2005, 03:10 PM
			
			
			
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 Bob,Yes I did,  Thank you very much.
 They will get me going in the right direction. Question????
 Will the blow shield setup fit my application--- see original post.
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				04-30-2005, 03:56 PM
			
			
			
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 That combination should work fine.  Don't forget to trim the bottom flange of the bell housing as per the manual. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Bob,I am working without a manual, do you have directions re: trimming the bellhousing---where & how much?
 It doesn't seem adequate,  But once again,
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 You can download the manual at the site given by Tongue Pirate - above.
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				04-30-2005, 08:54 PM
			
			
			
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 Great shots!  Thanx for posting those! 
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				04-30-2005, 09:00 PM
			
			
			
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 I know from personal experience. I called Bob on several occasions for advise and help and every time the solution was always in the manual, send this guy a manual, and these photos. I can send you lots of photos of my ERA build just send me a pm |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
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