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Old 09-20-2007, 09:07 PM
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IMHO opinion... this thread is pretty useless! I mean.. if we don't have both sides to the story, how can we compare? I'm not doubting either party but everyone here seems to be defending ERA, "If an agreement was made, they will honor it" Well.. obviously not if it's been as long as this guy states it has and still no action? At all!? I mean, it was almost 2 weeks ago that it was said the book keeper was "fired," I'm sorry for ERA but by now they should have gotten things sorted out at least to the point where they could cut this guy a check for the deposit he says was agreed upon! And if the book keeper was laid off.... there is absolutely no excuse! I mean, surely you don't go and layoff somebody without having somebody to pick up their duties! I know they wouldn't lay off their master fabricator without having a competent backup! I think there are parts to this story that are either not being told or pavulon is unaware of! It just doesn't seem right that this would keep going on... And what does it matter if they started his build? I mean, surely they can sell it to the next customer with a ease, especially if the wait time is now 3 months instead of 6! From everything that I've read about teh business practices of ERA, they seem like a very honest, fair company. Posting here on the forums about business could be both good and bad for business.. I think it could be more good than bad. I think it looks bad when someone posts a bad thread about them and they post in the thread but don't defend themselves. Sure, I understand this place is meant for relaxation for them as it is for many of us, but there is no reason that they can't be a business on CC as well as a customer. If your business practices are as good as I've read, they have nothing to worry about.

I know it might sound like I'm bashing ERA, but I'm seriously not! I'm just trying to put it into perspective for somebody who has never bought from ERA, nor knows any of them. If I were a potential buyer, this thread would be a huge red flag, and I would probably wait to see how it turned out. it's now been 2 weeks since the thread started and nothing has been said or done. I would likely move on to my next choice.

My perspective of this thread is that at this point, it is doing alot more damage than good since ERA is not doing anything to defend themselves or make the agreement right. And who knows, maybe pavulon is a total liar and we don't even have half of the truth, but from all his posts, I woud tend to believe otherwise. He didn't come on here bashing ERA! He just wanted what was apparently agreed upon. Even said he would still buy from ERA!

Well... that's my view on this thread as an outsider with no affiliation to ERA or pavulon. Take it as you will, there are no ill intentions here towards ERA or pavulon. Surely they both have a story, unfortunately we're only going to hear one side apparently.

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Old 09-20-2007, 09:29 PM
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IMHO opinion... this thread is pretty useless! I mean.. if we don't have both sides to the story, how can we compare?
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Of course it is useless, it was never meant to have any use for any one except Pavulon. This thread was created simply as a strong arm tactic to try to gain leverage in getting his deposit back. Pavulon claims up front that he was "not naming names" and was just "looking for advice", yet he posts this thread in the ERA forum . . . Frankly, I am surprised Bob replied at all.

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"And what does it matter if they started his build? I mean, surely they can sell it to the next customer with a ease, especially if the wait time is now 3 months instead of 6!"
It matters if they started the build because up until the time they start the build, the deposit is 100% refundable. After the build is started, refund is discretionary based on work done. The fact that they agreed to give him a refund after they started work (if that is in fact the case) shows that they were acting in good faith and not trying to screw him. They could have simply said, "Sorry we've used all your deposit money building the car, there is nothing left to return."

And as to the second part of your question, if this was for a GT 40, I don't think, that spot could be sold to the next customer with ease, because I don't think there are that many GT 40s sold- could months before they take another deposit on a GT 40.

But you are right, this thread is useless.
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