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06-17-2008, 06:07 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Central,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #775
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Originally Posted by DonC
Had my engine built by Joe Lapine at Danbury Competition Engines, one of ERA's recommended engine builders. I knew I wanted a 428 since it was a good choice for the cost vs bragging rights controversies.
DonC
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Hi DonC,
After speaking with Peter, I will also be going with one of Joe's engines. From what you have described, I'm looking for much the same type of engine. Thanks for your input!
Ray
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06-17-2008, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RAO-3
Hi DonC,
After speaking with Peter, I will also be going with one of Joe's engines. From what you have described, I'm looking for much the same type of engine. Thanks for your input!
Ray
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Contact Joe earlier rather than later so he can be on the lookout for a quality 428 block. You want the extra webbing on the crank saddle. These blocks are no longer just lying around the junkyards -- he will find you one, but there is a certain element of "luck" involved and the sooner he knows you want one the better your chances are of finding it.
EDIT -- here are some shots showing you what I mean.
Normal crank saddle:
Extra webbing on the crank saddle:

Last edited by patrickt; 06-17-2008 at 10:08 AM..
Reason: Borrowed some pics from www.428cobrajet.com
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06-17-2008, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Contact Joe earlier rather than later so he can be on the lookout for a quality 428 block. You want the extra webbing on the crank saddle. These blocks are no longer just lying around the junkyards -- he will find you one, but there is a certain element of "luck" involved and the sooner he knows you want one the better your chances are of finding it.
EDIT -- here are some shots showing you what I mean.
Normal crank saddle:
Extra webbing on the crank saddle:

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Ahh, okay, now I know what I'm looking for!
Peter was going to call Joe either yesterday or today; I will give him a call tomorrow to be sure he looks for the extra webbing. I appreciate the tip and the pictures!
Ray
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06-17-2008, 01:24 PM
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Location: E BRUNSWICK N.J. USA,
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If joe doesnot Have one,I might know there one is
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06-17-2008, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RICK LAKE
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Rick, you're not suggesting he try and pass a phony block-date stamp off on the Jersey Motor Vehicle guys are you?!?  A brand new, shiny, all aluminum block dated 40+ years ago????  You don't think the inspector just might be a car guy? 
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06-17-2008, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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I did speak briefly to Joe today and he does have a 428fe block with the reinforced webbing for me.
Is it normal for the engine builder to want 50% up front to do these engines? When I had my engine work done on my corvette, the builder didn't ask for anything until he was done.
Ray
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06-17-2008, 03:36 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RAO-3
I did speak briefly to Joe today and he does have a 428fe block with the reinforced webbing for me.
Is it normal for the engine builder to want 50% up front to do these engines? When I had my engine work done on my corvette, the builder didn't ask for anything until he was done.
Ray
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In my experience, yes. The engine builder has to front a lot of parts purchases, labor and machine work. In my case, a CSX aluminum block was a big upfront cost.
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06-17-2008, 04:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cutting Edge, Boss 429
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RICK LAKE
RAO-3 There might be away aroung that date stamp in the block. Check with Ponds block maker or Genises. I think one have a stamped block. It's worth the checking and gives you a bill you will need for registration. l:
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Pond is the mfg. that has a date code.
If the block is painted, I don't know that anyone (including an inspector) would be able to identify it as "non-Ford" 
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