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03-30-2010, 02:49 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoyWarr
My question is: Who built this? Shelby American Inc, or Factory Five Racing.
Did Carol Shelby produce cars vie FFR?
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You know, I actually live for straight lines like this. But the short answer is "No, Shelby did not build it." That is just a metal tag that you can buy for about ten bucks. Nothing more. |
03-30-2010, 02:49 PM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,316
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Looks like an FFR.
You can easily buy those Shelby American tags and slap one under the hood of your Toyota Prius if you like...  |
03-30-2010, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
Posts: 1,115
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Jeez, what awful photos. Even a point-and-clicker should know to set the white balance when shooting under artificial light.
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03-30-2010, 03:54 PM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-FIA, 66 mustang convertible, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,627
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According to the FFR registry
Pat Wilson built FFR 4839. He lives(lived) in St. Mary's, Georgia, he finished his build on October 9th, 2004 and is painted Majestic Red Metallic and Galaxy Silver. Pat was in the Navy as of December 2004 the last time he logged in to the ffcobra forum.
Bill S.
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03-30-2010, 08:16 PM
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Thank you all. I would like to end this wayward thread by saying thank you all for the information.
This car is being marked as an authentic CS licensed Shelby Cobra. When I told the auctioneer it was not a CS licensed replica he was quite disappointed. He did not believe me at first and was actually speechless when I told him it was made by Factory Five Racing and that CS only licensed his through Superformance.
I told him all this yesterday. This thread was to check my facts.
The car is extremely clean and I don't believe there is a starting price. So if anybody wants one they are accepting bids over the phone.
Thanks All.
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04-01-2010, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Saratoga Springs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR 3850, 95 Cobra 5.0 EFI, IRS, Pin Drive 15" real Magnesium Halibrands & Vintage Wheels, Billboards & Mickey Thompson S/T tires, Blue/Wht Stripes, Hoops, CSX Dash, Konis, VPMs, Torsen
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I attended the auction; it sold today for $67,000.
Yup, 67 big ones.
In addition a 3% premium to the auction company.
It had these features:
- a 3-Link solid axle
- 302 w carb
- CSX dash
- Lowback stock seats (looked like leather)
- carpeted trunk
- 17" Team III wheels
- polished sheet metal engine area
- undercoated
- Hoops
- Polished FFR louvers
- 4 into 4 headers
- ceramic exhaust
- chrome roll bar (single)
- FFR hood hinge
- FFR stock trunk hinges (external)
It had 65xx miles
It is a Mk II, FFR48xx
VIN plate said "Cobra" Shelby American
Autioneer sold it as a "Shelby".
Very well made FFR. Do we know who built it? |
04-01-2010, 06:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Saratoga Springs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR 3850, 95 Cobra 5.0 EFI, IRS, Pin Drive 15" real Magnesium Halibrands & Vintage Wheels, Billboards & Mickey Thompson S/T tires, Blue/Wht Stripes, Hoops, CSX Dash, Konis, VPMs, Torsen
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I see Bill S posted above
Quote:
According to the FFR registry
Pat Wilson built FFR 4839. He lives(lived) in St. Mary's, Georgia, he finished his build on October 9th, 2004 and is painted Majestic Red Metallic and Galaxy Silver. Pat was in the Navy as of December 2004 the last time he logged in to the ffcobra forum.
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04-01-2010, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 21,897
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry N Johnson
I attended the auction; it sold today for $67,000.
Yup, 67 big ones.
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That damn RodKnock is just made of money.  |
04-01-2010, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Saratoga Springs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR 3850, 95 Cobra 5.0 EFI, IRS, Pin Drive 15" real Magnesium Halibrands & Vintage Wheels, Billboards & Mickey Thompson S/T tires, Blue/Wht Stripes, Hoops, CSX Dash, Konis, VPMs, Torsen
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It belonged to the US Marshall who auctioned it off as a result of court action:
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04-01-2010, 07:32 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry N Johnson
I attended the auction; it sold today for $67,000.
Yup, 67 big ones.
In addition a 3% premium to the auction company.
It had these features:
- a 3-Link solid axle
- 302 w carb
- CSX dash
- Lowback stock seats (looked like leather)
- carpeted trunk
- 17" Team III wheels
- polished sheet metal engine area
- undercoated
- Hoops
- Polished FFR louvers
- 4 into 4 headers
- ceramic exhaust
- chrome roll bar (single)
- FFR hood hinge
- FFR stock trunk hinges (external)
It had 65xx miles
It is a Mk II, FFR48xx
VIN plate said "Cobra" Shelby American
Autioneer sold it as a "Shelby".
Very well made FFR. Do we know who built it? |
I think the buyer is going to be really unhappy when he/she realizes this is not really a Shelby... |
04-01-2010, 07:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 21,897
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
I think the buyer is going to be really unhappy when he/she realizes this is not really a Shelby...
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Maybe he thought it was an April Fool's joke, and he was just playing his part?  |
04-01-2010, 07:40 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
That damn RodKnock is just made of money. |
No, but the trees in the backyard have high yields. |
04-01-2010, 10:59 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tucson,
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This would be a caveat emptor sale as I see it. Buyer should have looked it over before bidding.
Larry
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04-02-2010, 05:20 AM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-FIA, 66 mustang convertible, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry N Johnson
I attended the auction; it sold today for $67,000.
Yup, 67 big ones.
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Live from WPB:
On side note, lot # 73 (Lone Star extended wheel base) Sold for $34,100 at the Barrett Jackson auction yesterday. A very bland build (IE: donor motor with nowhere near the 300+HP the seller stated), not well detailed, ugly bolt on wheels, no chrome or extras to be seen, but nice paint and interior..This goes to show that most people do not know what they are looking at, they see a shape similar to the original, in a color they desire, and they keep raising their hands in order to try and win it. There is a nice 900 series SPF(351W/385hp powered) in Metallic green and another beautiful late MK II FFR (42xx I believe) that will go over the block today or tomorrow, I'd be disappointed in they do not go for more than the one mentioned above.......But again, it all depends on the bidder and their particular mood.
Bill S.
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04-25-2010, 06:05 PM
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Location: magna,
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hmmmm sounds vagley familer
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