Tired and frustrated with the glycol in oil leak..

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

...because your engine can run at 300+ deg now).

Great but your oil, valve springs and hoses can't. Run at regular temps of 240 or more and eventually your bores will marry the rings. Do you run Evans in your KMP? What temps do you get in oil and water in FL?

Fresh, clean coolant or water, changed regularly, is far more cost effective and far less damaging then you state. The stuff exists so its makers can hugely profit from markets where it's not needed.

[Ronbo]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Great but your oil, valve springs and hoses can't. Run at regular temps of 240 or more and eventually your bores will marry the rings. Do you run Evans in your KMP? What temps do you get in oil and water in FL?

Fresh, clean coolant or water, changed regularly, is far more cost effective and far less damaging then you state. The stuff exists so its makers can hugely profit from markets where it's not needed.

I run it in my street vehicle, plan to run it in the Kirkham as well.

The problems you mention were in what? Engines running water because your combustion chamber temps were too high from the steam pockets. Your combustion chamber temps will decrease with the waterless (and remain more stable to boot).

As far as damage, thread after thread of anodes, corroded radiators, coolant leaks, ate up aluminum, yada, yada. (leaks, leaks, leaks)

As far as internet searches of problems with Evens? Found lots of boil-over conditions solved and one guy that didn't know if he should top off his leaking coolant system with water.

Sorry, not seeing the problem here. Other than convincing yourself it won't work because the herd runs water. (I saw one reply here from someone actually using it that said it helped, everyone else seems convinced it won't based on their experience not using it)

[ERA Chas]

See comments in bold below:

Originally Posted by Ronbo

I run it in my street vehicle, plan to run it in the Kirkham as well. So you're encouraging a guy to use something in a Cobra that you haven't used in a Cobra? Nice. Your street vehicle and a Cobra are worlds apart from a heat production/retention standpoint.

The problems you mention were in what? Engines running water because your combustion chamber temps were too high from the steam pockets. Your combustion chamber temps will decrease with the waterless (and remain more stable to boot). I never had ANY problems with chambers /steam or ANY coolant-related issues in 15 years with the same block and system in a Cobra. Iron block, aluminum heads, aluminum rad. Using green/distilled water mix changed biennially. Where do you get this stuff?

As far as damage, thread after thread of anodes, corroded radiators, coolant leaks, ate up aluminum, yada, yada. (leaks, leaks, leaks) If you could produce these reams of evidence, they will be found to be caused by negligent cooling maintenance, not using the block drains and or aged equipment.

As far as internet searches of problems with Evens? Found lots of boil-over conditions solved and one guy that didn't know if he should top off his leaking coolant system with water.

Sorry, not seeing the problem here. Other than convincing yourself it won't work because the herd runs water. (I saw one reply here from someone actually using it that said it helped, everyone else seems convinced it won't based on their experience not using it) Missed my point entirely while doing your Evans commercial. I've used the water method exclusively because I learned the proper way to install and care for it which eliminates ANY engine/radiator corrosion issues or the mysterious combustion chamber volcanoes you imagine. No anodes or yada-yadas. Thus, no reason to look for a"BETTER WAY"-especially a more costly better way.

But the major point is that your response does nothing to help Undy solve his question. He doesn't NEED a better coolant. Whether using water, Evans or Kool-Aid---what is causing coolant to find oil and gel in his valve covers???

[Ronbo]

The Evens commercial is over, you can relax now.

If you bothered to read through the entire thread you'd find that I may have been the only one to correctly identify Undy's problem. (so maybe I'm not quite the dumbazz you think I am)

But hey, no one could possibly teach you something when you already know what's really happening.

If you'd bother to actually read about the history of this product you'd see that GM invested heavily into it's development - probably because it was totally unnecessary. No, it's probably best to broad-brush people's problems with water as a result of poor maintenance.

I really don't care if you choose not to run it, is it OK with you if someone else does?

[Z-linkCobra]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

The Evens commercial is over, you can relax now.

If you bothered to read through the entire thread you'd find that I may have been the only one to correctly identify Undy's problem.

Still waiting for you to tell us what the problem was.

Or are you too busy patting yourself on the back?

[Ronbo]

Originally Posted by Z-linkCobra

Still waiting for you to tell us what the problem was.

Or are you too busy patting yourself on the back?

The back coolant ports (read the thread).

Don't need to pat myself on the back, cash will do nicely.

Oh, by the way, bite me!

I guess no one forgot to take their azzhole pill today...

GM's research was specifically to address coolant issues with high horsepower engines being developed for the Corvette. (not that high horsepower engines have anything to do with Cobra's) Since emissions dictate not running rich (which would lower detonation problems) they addressed the "real" problem: the steam pockets that develop in any engine's coolant passenges above the cumbustion chamber. (turns out steam is a lousy conductor of heat, go figure) The problems you stated ie: valve spring fatigue and cylinder bore wear are a direct result of combustion chamber temps, not block temp.

There is a huge difference in your cumbustion chamber temp and your coolant temp. Why do you think your recovery tank level varies so much between hot and cold (the liquid coolant only expands slightly) that's how much steam is in your cylinder heads and upper block.

[Z-linkCobra]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

The back coolant ports (read the thread).

Don't need to pat myself on the back, cash will do nicely.

Oh, by the way, bite me!

I guess no one forgot to take their azzhole pill today...

GM's research was specifically to address coolant issues with high horsepower engines being developed for the Corvette. (not that high horsepower engines have anything to do with Cobra's) Since emissions dictate not running rich (which would lower detonation problems) they addressed the "real" problem: the steam pockets that develop in any engine's coolant passenges above the cumbustion chamber. (turns out steam is a lousy conductor of heat, go figure) The problems you stated ie: valve spring fatigue and cylinder bore wear are a direct result of combustion chamber temps, not block temp.

There is a huge difference in your cumbustion chamber temp and your coolant temp. Why do you think your recovery tank level varies so much between hot and cold (the liquid coolant only expands slightly) that's how much steam is in your cylinder heads and upper block.

I dont think it would have helped you Ronbo....

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

I guess no one forgot to take their azzhole pill today...

GM's research was specifically to address coolant issues with high horsepower engines being developed for the Corvette. (not that high horsepower engines have anything to do with Cobra's) Since emissions dictate not running rich (which would lower detonation problems) they addressed the "real" problem: the steam pockets that develop in any engine's coolant passenges above the cumbustion chamber. (turns out steam is a lousy conductor of heat, go figure) The problems you stated ie: valve spring fatigue and cylinder bore wear are a direct result of combustion chamber temps, not block temp.

There is a huge difference in your cumbustion chamber temp and your coolant temp. Why do you think your recovery tank level varies so much between hot and cold (the liquid coolant only expands slightly) that's how much steam is in your cylinder heads and upper block.

This scientific discourse may be true when you lecture the forth-graders on your planet, but here on Earth, no one is having steam pocket-itis. Even Patrick. You correctly state (contradicting your planet's science) that the chamber temps are higher than the 'recovery' tank. On Earth that is true -about 700 deg. F difference, but we on Earth have a miracle cooling substance know as water which negates the much feared and dreaded 'steam-pocket formation' syndrome.

For the second time however, you brought it up but failed to explain why GM is not using the magic coolant you promote, in every 'high horsepower' (or low for that matter) Corvette. Or Malibu, Traverse, Silverado or Volt. You're having a credibility problem Dude.

And Undy will use his magnifying glass to read this thread more carefully because he obviously missed your 'block coolant ports' solution to his problem.