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03-13-2002, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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I would like to thank the guy that posted the thread about Don Borders and Image Auto Works in Palm Desert, Ca.
I called the number listed and spoke to Don, he was very generous with his time. I learned that my Contemporary was built by him, for his use and a little more about the car in general.
Regards,
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michael
A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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03-13-2002, 04:29 PM
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Only way I will do Webers is if I can steal a set during DVSFII.
There is bound to be one on one of them cars that will show up.
That is the only way. I am not spending any more than I have to.
TURK
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03-13-2002, 04:34 PM
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Am I mistaken to think you can do either solid lifters or Hydraulic lifters in a 427 SideOiler.
Do I have bad information?
TURK
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03-13-2002, 04:36 PM
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Turk,
I'm in the process of a tp project also. The "old engine builder" here has advised me to increase stroke and you can keep the revs down a bit while the tp heads still gobbel plenty of air. He has worked a 391 steel truck crank over to use the large front hub for the 871 blower drive pulley: Will have about 460 cu/in when done. I need a block.
Chuck
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03-13-2002, 04:37 PM
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The 68 year block supported hydraulics, otherwise it is machine work to support hydraulics.
Bill
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03-13-2002, 04:37 PM
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U-2 Driver:
Could never get Webers to flow that much. You would loose at least 50-75 HP.
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“If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower.”
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03-13-2002, 04:38 PM
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I am sooooo glad I am not all alone!
TURK
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03-13-2002, 04:52 PM
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Michael:
Glad you found out about your car! Don is a great guy and very knowledgeable about FE's.
Bill
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03-13-2002, 07:38 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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I spoke to him for 20 min. and it was so much more information than I gotten from the former owner and as much as I have gotten in the 3 months I have had the car comparing apples to oranges here in the club.. I have family in his area and will be by his shop next time I am in So Cal.
Thanks again,
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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03-13-2002, 09:52 PM
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Nice looking motor.
Bill
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03-14-2002, 09:23 AM
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Here a pic of the TP intake. Check out those non-rectangular ports.
Bill
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03-14-2002, 09:30 AM
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03-14-2002, 09:40 AM
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Gosh, I feel like a real dumba$$. Copying in URL that references image in photo gallery, surrounding w/ IMG tags, but no pic. What am I doing wrong.
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03-14-2002, 07:30 PM
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Rockers
Turk,
This may or may not help you with your decision over the dove or the Harland Sharpe roller rockers. I too had a hard time deciding between the two but it came down to Harland Sharp are bushed and Dove's are not.
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03-14-2002, 07:36 PM
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Trying to show pictures of the harland sharps!
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03-14-2002, 07:46 PM
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Rockers
I had the Harlan Sharp and converted to the Shelby. The are superior as per my engine builder....
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03-14-2002, 08:43 PM
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You say you have a large selection of tunnel port parts?
It would help us if we knew what those parts were before we began suggesting combinations using those parts.
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03-14-2002, 10:05 PM
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Turk,
You have the same idea I have had about a cobra but I don't have the car yet although I do have the engine. I have been running a 427 on the street for about 17 years. I started with a medium riser with a tunnel wedge 2X4 intake and a pair of 660 center squerters in a 69 Mach 1. I eventually ended up witha 427TP with Dove heads and a 2X4 tunnel port intake with a pair of 800 double pumpers. I always used a 427 crank, lemans rods, TRW pistons, SO block, solid lifter cam.
I have had alot of problems with the Dove heads, they leak water, the aluminium is so soft the helicoils often pull right out of the heads at far below Dove's recomended torq specs. The key is to not make things to mild and to get a good engine builder. A fast long living 427 is possible but requires alot more attension to detail than most other engines. For example definately use correct torque plates on the block because the cylinders move alot.
In one of my bad experiences with a machine shop they honed my block without plates and the cylinders were round when the heads were off but were .017 out of round with the heads and I kept getting odd wear patterns in the cylinders.
Food for thought, I did read an article several years ago about J. Bittle of Bittle performance had a 427TP with 2X4 and a 428 crank with 10:1 compression in a Boss 302 that was street driven and ran 11's in the quarter.
My 427 has a big solid lifter cam, 11:1 compression and has a power range of 4500 to high although I shift about 7800. You can e-mail me if I can help you any at AACDRP@megsinet.net
Doc
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03-14-2002, 10:05 PM
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Not worth the effort!
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03-14-2002, 10:23 PM
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Good gravy, could see that one coming.
Bill
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