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05-07-2006, 11:34 AM
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Installing Cam Dowel Pin
I installed the cam on my engine the other day and after I got it in I realized that the dowel pin wasn't in it. I couldn't find it in the box and it was a custom grind from Comp...so I don't know if they forgot to include it or what. So I have two questions now:
1. Where can I get a pin....and are they all universally sized? Do I need to call Comp to get one?
2. How tight is the fit? Can I put it in the cam with the cam in the block?
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05-07-2006, 06:22 PM
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05-07-2006, 06:35 PM
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I'd call Comp Cams. I'm sure they'll send you out another one. Do you have your old cam? If so, pull the old one out with a pair of vise grips. Messing up the outside of it a bit with the vise grips won't hurt a thing. Just put it back in using the messed up end as the end that goes into the cam. The messed up end actually helps hold it in a bit. Any of the ones that have ever come with a cam that I've installed in have been a fairly loose fit.
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05-08-2006, 03:20 AM
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Also some of them are too short to engage the timing gear. The one Crower sent me with my cam is way to short. I found a few originals that I had kicking around and from what I understand these can still be purchased through Ford.
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05-08-2006, 04:28 AM
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I wish I had one from the older cam.....but the other cam I had was a Comp custom grind solid flat tappet cam....and I sold it before I installed it so I could switch to a custom grind solid roller. For some reason, they left the dowel out of the box.
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05-08-2006, 10:58 PM
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Figure out what diameter and length you need (1 3/4"?). Go to a good hardware store; they should have dowel pins.
Don't forget to loctite the cam bolt; I've seen them come out if you don't...it's not a pretty sight.
You should be able to tap it in while the cam is in the block...the worst that will happen is the rear frost plug will get knocked out.
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05-09-2006, 06:44 AM
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If the engine is in the car, where you can't get to the rear plug, you can put a pry bar thru a lifter hole , behing a cam lube on the cylinder on the opposite bank, tap the pin in and no chance of knocking the cam plug loose
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05-09-2006, 06:53 AM
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I think the last cam I bought came with a dowel pin that was 1-1/4 inches long which was too short. I think you need one that's a least 1-1/2 inches long.
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05-09-2006, 06:57 AM
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That's the only thing I was worried about...knocking the cam plug out. Shoot it's a brand new build I just started....if I have to yank the cam, it's not gonna make me cry....but the easier the better. I was thinking about installing the cam bolt, then holding back on the cam with a screwdriver between the block and the bolt....then tapping the dowel in.
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05-09-2006, 08:18 AM
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CAM pins are generally s snug fit. I usually use the freeze and heat method with a plastic hammer as persuasion.
Additionally, may I suggest you get the hardened unit from Comp. They should send it to you free.
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05-09-2006, 10:10 AM
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I managed to break the original dowl pin in my Comp cam. It was a ***** to drill to get it out in the car, but I did it.Solid carbide 5/32" bit and a Drill Doctor two days and bloody arms .Drillbit was eventually too short and had to but a 1/8 carbide tipped bit ment for drilling safes, strait flutes.
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05-10-2006, 09:34 AM
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Brent,
The Ford number on the cam dowel is : 73357-S with a locator of N-87-C. The pin is no longer serviced by Ford however several dealers nationwide show it on their locator system. Go to your local Ford Dealer, have them locate a dealer near you and get your dowel pin.
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05-10-2006, 10:33 AM
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Thanks Byron. I needed a few other goodies, so I called KC and snagged one.
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05-14-2006, 12:08 AM
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For future info: Dowel pins are a standard item, and are hard; available at a bolt & nut house if not your local hardware store, usually in the yellow drawer-type bins.
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05-14-2006, 05:11 AM
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Byron thanks for that info! Good to know.
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