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Old 10-23-2006, 12:41 PM
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Well you can't blame the flat cams on the block, come on!

Interesting question: If a modern block looks the same why would go with a real one? Why would you buy a real Rolex when you can get a knockoff that 'looks real' and has a fine Timex motor inside it?

Some of us WANT the 'real thing'. The side oilers were designed for racing, for extreme rpm. Heck thats the block they used for the SOHC which turned 8000 plus rpm. It's not the BLOCK thats weak, it's the way it's BUILT that makes the difference.

Shelby alloy 427's blow up and make no mistake, if you don't build it right you can blow up ANY block!

Why don't you go with a 351W and slap some 427 valve covers on it! Why don't you go with a 352 or 390, heck they LOOK the same and there really cheap too. Why not go with a center oiler and save a bundle over a side oiler? Really tough to tell the difference. WHY? Because I know what's under my hood and that matters to ME.

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Old 10-23-2006, 03:50 PM
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Well you can't blame the flat cams on the block, come on!

Interesting question: If a modern block looks the same why would go with a real one? Why would you buy a real Rolex when you can get a knockoff that 'looks real' and has a fine Timex motor inside it?

Some of us WANT the 'real thing'. The side oilers were designed for racing, for extreme rpm. Heck thats the block they used for the SOHC which turned 8000 plus rpm. It's not the BLOCK thats weak, it's the way it's BUILT that makes the difference.

Shelby alloy 427's blow up and make no mistake, if you don't build it right you can blow up ANY block!

Why don't you go with a 351W and slap some 427 valve covers on it! Why don't you go with a 352 or 390, heck they LOOK the same and there really cheap too. Why not go with a center oiler and save a bundle over a side oiler? Really tough to tell the difference. WHY? Because I know what's under my hood and that matters to ME.

LET ME CLEAR IT UP FOR YOUR ERNIE.


63 Center oiler = solid lifter cam

I did not want to take another chance on getting inferior lifters with a soild lifter cam for a solid lifter only motor.

Therefore I went with a Hyd. Roller in a all aluminum Pond block.

The Pond and Gen versions of the 427 SO are much stronger motor than the original. Thicker walls and more internal bracing.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:01 AM
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...Some of us WANT the 'real thing'...
If you had been paying attention you would have noted that Archrms's question was "...is there any reason other than "authenticity" that makes an original block any better than a new Genesis?"...
If you want "the real thing", great. Buy one. Some of us on the other hand, have tried the "real thing" and, while deeply greatful that Ford brought out this wonderful engine, are tickled pink that better versions are available.

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...make no mistake, if you don't build it right you can blow up ANY block!
As though a cylinder wall breaking has anything to do with how it was built rather than core shift causing thin cylinder walls. It's virtually impossible (never use that word!) for a Genesis block to have this problem unless taken out to the max, which is .135 over the stock 427 bore...and you can always sleeve it back to 4.250 and start all over again!

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