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10-24-2006, 10:22 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Grand Rapids,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane 427S/C, KC/Pond aluminum 427/482 SO, TKO 600
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Morgan,
I'm sorry to here of your troubles!  Keith used Erson roller rockers on his stage two heads, and supplied everything from the oil pan to the carb on my build. I'm pretty much done driving until next spring, so I'll be checking things out here soon. If changes need to be made, to sure things up, now would be the time. I am also going to change the oil pan, as there is no windage or traps in mine. I had not planed on any road course action, but I see now it might be hard to stay away.
Kevin,
Things are a bit choppy down low until the motor comes up to temp. Once it's up to temp, it will idle at 800 rpm all day, with a nice lope, and rolls thru the gears, at low rpm, with no effort. I chose a .64 TKO 600, with a 3.50 rear, and in 5th gear at 60 mph it lugs, at 70 it smooths out, and at 75-80 it's cruisin' at just over 2000 rpm. It's all good as far as I'm concerned.
Brad
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10-27-2006, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Grand Rapids,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane 427S/C, KC/Pond aluminum 427/482 SO, TKO 600
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Morgan,
I spoke with Keith this AM, and discussed the valve train maintenance with this set-up. It is a good idea after a few hundred miles or so, not a must, but if you want to, you can retorque the intake, heads (not as critical), rocker studs and 1/2 turn preload on the lifters. Doing this on a cold engine is fine, and once you do this once at the beginning, and you will not need to do it again.
Brad
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10-27-2006, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4766 (Vegas Built) with 482 Aluminum Pond motor
Posts: 814
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Yep, I spoke with him too this morning.
He is done rebuilding my heads. 1 day turn around, which is extremely rare these days. Sending me a new cam and lifter to replace the damaged cam and lifter. Should be back in business before the end of November.
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Fresno CA
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10-27-2006, 11:49 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Grand Rapids,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane 427S/C, KC/Pond aluminum 427/482 SO, TKO 600
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Did you stay with the same cam?
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10-27-2006, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4766 (Vegas Built) with 482 Aluminum Pond motor
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Yes, After looking at other options
After looking at what was available in Hyd Roller cams and speaking with Keith I decided to stick with the same cam. Should be up and running before the end of November.
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Morgan LeBlanc
Fresno CA
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10-28-2006, 12:32 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Knoxville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Ford F100; 496 Shelby, MassFlo, BlueThunder, Kee-Al-TopLoader, Detroit Locker
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Gentlemen, I'm at the threshold of ordering a 482 from Keith. I was planning on going with the Mass-Flo EFI system to control the idle and CR issues. Where do you think your at with torque and HP if you don't mind my asking? I to am planning on a Wide Ratio Top Loader but going with 3.08. I don't see any road racing but I'm looking forward to the not too rare exhibition of speed. Streetlight stuff and a bit of a bark from the pipes. Good hearing from you guys, Scott
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10-28-2006, 05:12 AM
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Location: E BRUNSWICK N.J. USA,
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Power
Scott KCR motor have a strong mid range and great power to 6500 rpm I am looking at the same cam for my 496 motor. If you guys are going to race, put a rev limiter in the motor and keep it to MAX 6700 rpm. Ask KCR about any advantage to Beehive springs and the lightening of the valve train. I have a T&D valve train on the new motor. I broken a rocker shaft out in R&G and hurt the motor. A accusump 3 qt. oil system would be a smart think to add to your car. You can use it as a per oil luber on startups, keeps pressure up on 1 G turns when the oil doesn't want to go back in the pan, and it saved my motor when the shaft broke and the lifter came out of the bore. Scott the other thing is YOU will be biten by the racing bug  I said the same thing about not racing the car. I drive within my limits and it's GREAT.  Autocross is a controlled course of speed needing only 2 gears, top speed maybe 40-50 mph, feels like 60. There is no CURE. Good luck. I have seen KCR motors with the cam from above idle at 800 rpm without any problem or surging. This cam is not that big with 482 cubes. 427 another story. Rick
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10-31-2006, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Scottsdale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #304, Shelby Aluminum 482 FE
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Get a 5 speed!
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Originally Posted by Scott M Jackson
Gentlemen, I'm at the threshold of ordering a 482 from Keith. I was planning on going with the Mass-Flo EFI system to control the idle and CR issues. Where do you think your at with torque and HP if you don't mind my asking? I to am planning on a Wide Ratio Top Loader but going with 3.08. I don't see any road racing but I'm looking forward to the not too rare exhibition of speed. Streetlight stuff and a bit of a bark from the pipes. Good hearing from you guys, Scott
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Scott,
I have that exact combination, Kieth Craft 482ci FE, wide ratio toploader, 3.08 rear in my Kirkham. RPM's are still too high out on the road and mileage is terrible. The car has so much power that the 3.08 is the way to go and wheelspin is still a problem but I would really like to get highway RPM down. I'm going to buy a 5 speed for my Kirkham.
Chip
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10-31-2006, 03:07 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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Have you thought of using a solid flat tappet ? They will take he punishment. I adjust the valves once every spring. Very easy and only takes about 1/2 hr to 45 min. Mine is a custom grind Comp Cam. 252/260- 600 lift- 112 % lobe sep. I love this cam.
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10-31-2006, 04:31 PM
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Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4766 (Vegas Built) with 482 Aluminum Pond motor
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We have almost the same cam
except mine is hyd which does not need any adjustement once it is set.
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Morgan LeBlanc
Fresno CA
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