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Old 04-22-2008, 02:40 PM
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Default What Am I Forgetting???

This Friday we (Mickmate, Jeff G and I) will cut off the sbf frame mounts and weld the bbf mounts on, then we are going to install the drivetrain.

What kind of bolts do I need for the Alum. flyweel? Grade 8 or Grade 5? I haven't looked in the box for the RAM clutch, but I guessing the bolts are included. If not, what bolts are needed for that, grade 8 or 5?

Here is what I have to do the install:
1. engine
2. TKO tranny
3. QT Bellhousing (bolts included-yes)
4. Fidanza Alum flywheel (bolts included-no)
5. Ram clutch (bolts included-don't know)
6. Frame mounts
7. Motor mounts
8. RobbMc bellhousing dowels to dial in bh.

WHAT AM I FORGETTING??? I want to get this right the first time as we are on limited time.

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Old 04-22-2008, 03:06 PM
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I'll answer my own question so I don't forget this. Butt in and let me know if I get it wrong!

• Acetone to wipe down flywheel before installing clutch
• Locktight (which kind?)
• Paint for chassis work areas
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• Tig welder
• plasma cutter
• 1/4" steel plate for Tremec trans cross member mod (anyone got the measurements for this?)
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:19 PM
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First off go with grade 8 bolts for the flywheel and pressure plate. Secoundly Ram does not include bolts with there clutches you will need to get those. As for the locktite, I would go with the red. I am sure you know this but I will state it anyways do not use an impact on the pressure plate bolts you can warp it. It sounds like you have your ducks in a row on your install, another captain obvious response but make sure you have all the proper safety gear to go with the tools you are planning on useing, i.e. safety glasses, gloves. jimig@standardtransmission.com
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Pressure Plate bolts ordered from Summit

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2D2201&FROM=MG


Flywheel bolts coming as well. They were only $10.95. The $35 ones are for a Tilton flywheel...I was told by Summit.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=ARP-200-2802

Rick,
I just got off the phone with Summit tech support. They do not sell the center ring. Do you know where I can get one in a big hurry!!!???
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:10 PM
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You got the little tool that lets you align your disc and pressure plate up properly?
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:13 PM
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patrickt,
Yes, the alignment tool is in the Ram box.
Also ordered the header studs and engine lift plate. It will all be here on Thurs. I hope.

What else am I forgetting?

Dang it blykins, why did you do that. I already ordered the red stuff!!

Why blue?
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:30 PM
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I went through 5 sets of motor mounts before Roger sent me the ones that work. Ask Tim what he recommends.
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Hey John,
Tim G. sent me motor mounts with the frame mounts.
Can you think of anything else I will need for Friday.
Thanks!
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:35 PM
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Pilot bushing.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:38 PM
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There is a metal ring with holes for the flywheel bolts that is typically used with a flexplate in a automatic traansmission. If used with an aluminum flywheel it helps prevent the bolt heads from tearing up the aluminum. I highly reccommend it. Use application specific bolts,such as ARP or McLeod, not grade 8 Hardware bolts. Use red locktite.
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I would recommend buying a flywheel bolt kit. I wouldn't use just some bolts from the hardware store. A set of ARP flywheel bolts for an FE is only like $35 at summit.
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I'd blue Loctite the flywheel and P/P bolts.
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You'll be ok. I just prefer to use blue on smaller fasteners. Red will sometimes cause it to be locked in so tight that you break the head of the bolt off trying to get it out.

I've always used blue and have never had a bit of problems. But I'm sure red will be fine.
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Does anyone know where I can get the bolt ring for the flywheel?!!!
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Default The most important stuff!!!!

hi tech cobra The most important thing is Beer, Coke Cola, and steaks. They get the reward after the job is done. You may want to add bolts to the motor mounts if they are rubber. This will stop them from splitting under hard driving and still gives the frame isolation from the motor vibs. If the frame is painted you might want to tape and paper off the rest from burn spots when welding. A electric level will help with the perfect leveling of the mounts. This is up to you guys but some of the cobras have the motor sitting 1" to the right for balance of the car. I think you have the rest covered. Good luck, get a couple of pictures. I hoping you are going to have the car on jack stands, try and have the frame level as possible, this make the whole job easier. Rick L

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Old 04-23-2008, 06:12 AM
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blykins,
I have the muffler bearings, man were they hard to find. Finally found them at a garage sale late last night...guy said they were brand new and fit my application. He seemed to know what he was talking about so I picked up a couple extras. Let me know if you need some.

I also decided to go with the new iStart from Apple. It does everything an iPhone does, play your favorite "Cars" tune, call your wife and tell her the motor only cost $5K, and download the latest Hooters girl calender.

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Do you have your clutch fork and pivot?
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Also, if you plan on putting the engine/trans in together, I'd have a plug for the rear of the trans so you don't get pretty red fluid all over the floor.

Do you have your slave cylinder? Sometimes you have to drill a larger hole in the clutch fork for the pushrod...it's easier to do out of the car.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:20 PM
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What about a urethane tranny mount for my TKO? I am going to notch the trans cross member so I think a Toploader style mount will work.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:23 PM
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blykins,
Look in my gallery at the Fortes external slave setup. I'm guessing it is ready to go, but who knows!
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