Two Engine failures from Southern Automotive

[Jerry Clayton]

Why would a person from Washington buy engine from Georgia???

[FFR428]

Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton

Why would a person from Washington buy engine from Georgia???

Same reason someone from CT would buy a engine block from AK.
Most of us go by the builders reps and words from others. I'm sure Donald heard good things about Mr P. As I have too in the past. But have also heard the same story about SA from others and the problems. Some fixed some not. I really don't see who and where you buy from has anything to do with where you live. JMO of course.

[TButtrick]

Originally Posted by FFR428

Same reason someone from CT would buy a engine block from AK.
Most of us go by the builders reps and words from others. I'm sure Donald heard good things about Mr P. As I have too in the past. But have also heard the same story about SA from others and the problems. Some fixed some not. I really don't see who and where you buy from has anything to do with where you live. JMO of course.

Agreed. As I've stated before, there are engine assemblers and there are engine builders. I can give you nightmarish stories of what I've been through with engine assemblers in NJ. It's all about marketing.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by TButtrick

Agreed. As I've stated before, there are engine assemblers and there are engine builders. I've can give you nightmarish stories of what I've been through with engine assemblers in NJ. It's all about marketing.

Todd,
You should share your experience here in the Consumer Watch forum. No paid advertiser here to censor your experience.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton

Why would a person from Washington buy engine from Georgia???

I know 3 people that have Southern Automotive engines here in Wa. State. No problems have been reported. I suppose you've never bought anything out of state? That being said, I prefer to build my own engines. It's not rocket science. Well known builders are no better than anyone else that knows what they are doing.

Jim

[Great Asp]

Originally Posted by jwd

I know 3 people that have Southern Automotive engines here in Wa. State. No problems have been reported. I suppose you've never bought anything out of state? That being said, I prefer to build my own engines. It's not rocket science. Well known builders are no better than anyone else that knows what they are doing.

Jim

+1 It would be a good idea not to take sides for or against anyone on this thread, instead see if through the facts there is some common ground between the OP and SA.

I'd rather see both parties settled than have a pro and con thread.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by jwd

I know 3 people that have Southern Automotive engines here in Wa. State. No problems have been reported.

Are those motors being raced or street driven, I think it makes a diffrence.

Originally Posted by Jamo

It always tickles me a bit when a brand new poster comes on and starts telling the rest of us what our Forum is for...and then go on to complain about bad service or parts on their first posts, and then wrap it in a "I'm just trying to help others."

Absolutely NOT how this forum will be used.

Well, I've been posting for a while. I was at a local track event this year, and talking with some others, I heard that there was a track day at I think VIR, ? Superformance event, and there were 3-5 FE engines that went "south" (no pun intended) during that event, all built by Southern. Now whether that is true or not, I don't know. Worth checking out.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Are those motors being raced or street driven, I think it makes a diffrence.




Well, I've been posting for a while. I was at a local track event this year, and talking with some others, I heard that there was a track day at I think VIR, ? Superformance event, and there were 3-5 FE engines that went "south" (no pun intended) during that event, all built by Southern. Now whether that is true or not, I don't know. Worth checking out.

Maybe you should have checked it out before offering up your vague and speculative hearsay
If you are going to volunteer an implication with unsubstantiated sources, its just another ride on the rip em' up bandwagon, regardless of the volume of posts participated in.
Factual information lends to honesty, "I heard" is for junior high kids.
I have never done biz with SA nor have any association with them but I have listened to the varied opinions like many here
A quality preference might be to hear both sides before dropping such a vague hammer as the one you are tossing around.

[Great Asp]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

Maybe you should have checked it out before offering up your vague and speculative hearsay
If you are going to volunteer an implication with unsubstantiated sources, its just another ride on the rip em' up bandwagon, regardless of the volume of posts participated in.
Factual information lends to honesty, "I heard" is for junior high kids.
I have never done biz with SA nor have any association with them but I have listened to the varied opinions like many here
A quality preference might be to hear both sides before dropping such a vague hammer as the one you are tossing around.

I would agree with this. I would rather hear from the 3-5 owners than the guys who know a guy.

Besides, this was about the OP and his problems. Pages later, no post from Bill P, or from Mr. Campbell.

Eric

Legal disclaimer: Eric has not entered into or out of any contract with SA or any of it's affiliates and is only trying to help the parties in question reach settlement.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

Maybe you should have checked it out before offering up your vague and speculative hearsay
If you are going to volunteer an implication with unsubstantiated sources, its just another ride on the rip em' up bandwagon, regardless of the volume of posts participated in.
Factual information lends to honesty, "I heard" is for junior high kids.
I have never done biz with SA nor have any association with them but I have listened to the varied opinions like many here
A quality preference might be to hear both sides before dropping such a vague hammer as the one you are tossing around.

Maybe you're right, but I love to stir up the pot.

I heard this from several people who were there, but their cars were not the ones. Although I know more details, I was hoping that someone with better knowledge would say something, but alot of times, people want to keep things hush hush. Everytime I have a problem with somebody, I dont post it, at least at this time.

I have had "expert" engine builders/assemblers assemble my engine(s) with the rockers not spaced correctly on the shaft, pushrods rubbing the intake, etc. When a novice engine assembler like myself can spot significant deviations from what I consider proper engine assembly, it makes me wonder about the general quality of work being done out there by people who I think really shouldn't be doing it. Even with any big name builder, sometimes the people really doing the work may not be doing it correctly. Roll the dice.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Maybe you're right, but I love to stir up the pot.

I heard this from several people who were there, but their cars were not the ones. ...

That there's what we call "double hearsay."

So...what happened to the thread starter? Some questions have been asked of him, and no answers provided.

[Gatorac]

I have an SA motor. I bought it from SA. It leaked so bad when it arrived that I could not drive the car without repairing the leak. How is it that an engine that is "ran in for 2 hours on a test stand" has a major intake manifold oil leak? There was oil in the bottom of the shipping crate for cryin out loud. I'm gonna go out an a limb here and say it probably didn't run for more then 2 minutes if at all.

I heard all of the stories about how great the service was from the owners of SA. They were great hosts to the DSCC. They are really nice people. That is why I chose them for my project. They were willing to help with my oil leak problems. At what point to we say "gee, why do they have to provide so much service for engine problems after the sale"??????? And I only had to trailer the car to Atlanta for them to fix it. Good service is only half of the equation. You have to have a quality product too.

Think about this for a minute. How many posts on this forum have you seen with people saying how great KCI was with fixing the problem with thier new engine?