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Old 02-14-2009, 07:04 AM
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Some up dates. I've heard from people that the reason for the squeezed sides is to match the square bores of the head so, no worries there.

I'm going to keep my headers but, build/buy new 2" J-tubes, collectors 4" muffler housings, 3" mufflers and tips.

The KC engine is a go, the EFI sadly no. By the time I bought both and completely running, the cost of apx. $15,000- $20,000, is too high for me.

But I know I'll be very happy with a nasty, high HP/TQ Keith Craft aluminum 427 side oiler.

Now we can talk details.
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Old 02-15-2009, 07:01 AM
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Ok, big decision.

Sell my 428 as a short block, and transfer all remaining parts to the KC 482 ?

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Sell it ready to run, then use that money to purchase new parts.

I like bling (as kids call it today) so the Edelbrock "Endurashine" products would be nice. The RPM intake and water pump, new MSD distributor wires ect. Pentroof valve covers (which mine are new and not in the pics) Carb., pulleys, timing chain & cover, ect,.....Brand new everything.

Like I said before, I will take pictures and video of the engine running, recent dyno results and list all machining and parts. The problem is, I really have no idea on how much someone would pay, therefore, no idea on how much to ask. Any ideas ?

Which way would be best and not loose money for the 482 build ?

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Old 02-15-2009, 07:27 AM
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Ok, big decision.

Sell my 428 as a short block, and transfer all remaining parts to the KC 482 ?

Or


Sell it ready to run, then use that money to purchase new parts.

I like bling (as kids call it today) so the Edelbrock "Endurashine" products would be nice. The RPM intake and water pump, new MSD distributor wires ect. Pentroof valve covers (which mine are new and not in the pics) Carb., pulleys, timing chain & cover, ect,.....Brand new everything.

Like I said before, I will take pictures and video of the engine running, recent dyno results and list all machining and parts. The problem is, I really have no idea on how much someone would pay, therefore, no idea on how much to ask. Any ideas ?

Which way would be best and not loose money for the 482 build ?

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Kevin,

The best bet from a performance point of view would be to sell your current motor complete as a "short long block" (ie remove your accessories - water pump, alternator, pulleys, distributor, etc), include your intake in the sale and let Keith pick the best intake, heads, etc. This way you get a well matched combination of induction, heads, cam, etc. but you don't waste your $$ repurchasing your accessories (looks like you already good components there). If you do this, make sure Keith either recurves or gives you the specs to recurve your MSD distributor and you should be all set. The other thing you might consider if you are planning on running your 482 motor on the street is to replace the pulleys with a set that will OVERDIRVE the water pump. This will give you more collant circulation at idle and low speed which will help you avoid any cooling problems. You will give up a little bit of top end HP this way but I doubt that you'll miss it with a 482ci motor in a cobra on the street.

What do you currently have in terms of an alternator? SUggest you put on a 100A unit if you intend to go to EFI later (this may require upgrade of your primary wiring at the same time which is not a bit deal).

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Old 02-15-2009, 07:56 AM
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Hey Fred,
Keith likes the RPM manifold only because Vic Jr.'s won't fit under the hood of most cobras. It does rub my paint a bit. I would not mind buying a new RPM intake from Edelbrock with the ENDURASHINE,....it looks great. (don't know if they have it on the Vic Jr.)Keith did state that my Jr. would be fine. Give up a little TQ for better HP up top.

The overdrive pulley is a good idea, with the high temps here in Ne. In the summer, I change to a 160 degree thermostat.

I do have a 100 amp alt. Sometimes with the old alt., after the car was warmed up or after getting on it, if I stopped for gas, she did not want to start so, I did buy a retard box for start up's but, haven't installed it yet.
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:27 AM
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Hey Fred,
Keith likes the RPM manifold only because Vic Jr.'s won't fit under the hood of most cobras. It does rub my paint a bit. I would not mind buying a new RPM intake from Edelbrock with the ENDURASHINE,....it looks great. (don't know if they have it on the Vic Jr.)Keith did state that my Jr. would be fine. Give up a little TQ for better HP up top.

The overdrive pulley is a good idea, with the high temps here in Ne. In the summer, I change to a 160 degree thermostat.

I do have a 100 amp alt. Sometimes with the old alt., after the car was warmed up or after getting on it, if I stopped for gas, she did not want to start so, I did buy a retard box for start up's but, haven't installed it yet.

Kevin,

Vic Jr. is a fairly high RPM intake for street use. May not be such a bad idea to let Keith swap that out for you. Whatever you do, you'll need to decide before Keith start building your engine. If he is using your existing intake for example, it may cause him to pick a different CAM then if he is choosing all of the parts.

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Hey Kev,

You need one of these on the new Pond 482, forget the Victor or RPM.. The setup has the same hood clearance as the RPM or the BT 427MR 1x4. Keith keeps the carbs (600 Holleys), manifold (Tunnel Wedge), linkage and air cleaner in stock. You can't beat his pricing either. IMO it has near the kule factor of the stack EFI, at a third the cost. Sorry about the excessive fuel system bling, the repro stock fuel 2x4 fuel log and plumbing doesn't flow enough for a healthy 482.

The carbs pictured aren't the 600 Holleys. They're a set of custom Trick Fuel built, 4160 based units with 750 HP center sections and replaceable secondary jets (plus a multitude of other "race carb" tricks). They were built expressly for Keith's Pond 482s (mine actually) with his "typical" 600+ HP hydraulic roller. They cost quite a bit more than the 600 Holleys though..



Ya can't have too many carbs.
Top it off With a K&N and a Blue Thunder cast aluminum dual quad air cleaner



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Oh come on buddy, all that does is give you more gas, I have enough already. lol

Give me a call when you can.
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Have Keith start from scratch, no worries or $$$'s on compatibility.

Sell the old motor!

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