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Old 08-09-2010, 03:29 PM
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Smile GT 40 for sale Ebay question

I think this is the second time I have seen this GT 40 for sale on Ebay.

Does anyone know this car?

$65,000 for a GT 40 kit car sounds like a good price.

What about the quality of the kit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-...US_Cars_Trucks

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Old 08-09-2010, 03:35 PM
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Smile RCR GT 40 for sale

This one is nice and I've been to RCR and looked at their cars. Perfect. Beautiful machines.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/66-Fo...US_Cars_Trucks
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:36 PM
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sounds like a space frame car(not a MONO), interior a little cheesy, but overall not a bad price for a Gt with a decent engine with Webers, transaxle is not ideal.

as far as the RCR goes, that one has some really nice features but the price would probably be a record high for an RCR
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Old 08-09-2010, 05:06 PM
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That look's like Allen's here, it has to be the same. Too bad, I know this took a while to build and he had RCR build it from what I remember.

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Old 08-09-2010, 07:34 PM
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The GT 40 in the ebay ad is a GTD. That was a brit company that went out of business 7 or 8 years ago.
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Old 08-09-2010, 07:40 PM
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My RCR sold for over 100k and it wasn't the first one to go for that.
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:08 PM
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The ad says its' a Boss 302 engine but it has regular small block valve covers, not the Cleveland style covers that the Boss 302 has. The exhaust bolts are straight across, not staggered like the Boss, either.

Hmmmm, makes me wonder what other lies are in the description?
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:02 AM
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I don't know much about the GTD, but IMO that interior would have to go....I have been doing a lot of research on the GT40 for a future build and I can say that RCR builds a great car and has top notch people and Allen's car is top of the line. Extra bonus with Allen's car is that the motor was built by Keith Craft and adding the fuel injection with ZF trans you may be pushing 100k.
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:25 AM
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I think Dean Lampe sold his for $105,000.00 so I don't think that is an all time high for and RCR. IMO RCR makes one of the better built GT 40 Replica's and I have been in and/or driven most that are in the US (SPF, Roaring 40's, BDR, RCR, CAV, ERA).

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sounds like a space frame car(not a MONO), interior a little cheesy, but overall not a bad price for a Gt with a decent engine with Webers, transaxle is not ideal.

as far as the RCR goes, that one has some really nice features but the price would probably be a record high for an RCR
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:27 AM
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Sorry Dean I overlooked your post!

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Old 08-10-2010, 09:12 AM
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Looks like a great car.

If in doubt, talk with Fran, owner of RCR. I almost traded my cobra for one of his. It's a work of art !
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:44 PM
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I have a GTD, and that is a GTD. For certain. Now that's not a bad thing it is what it is. It looks pretty nicely completed finish wise.

The questions to ask are:

1. What brake system is on the car? The original Granada brakes would remove value form the car unless the buyer ONLY wants to street drive the car at near legal speeds.

2. Renault gearboxes are not a bad thing either. The questions to ask are, has it been upgraded to a one piece input shaft and if so who's parts and workmanship. Also does it have a LDS or some sort of limited slip. If so what type? What is the final drive ratio? If it is a 3.44 then it is a R21 and the most desired. Also what type of clutch. If it has a big bell housing and can use Ford clutch parts and flywheels then that's a big plus. There are ways to make the small Renault clutch work with 400hp but a stock Renault clutch will give up at about 275HP. That is too much motor for a standard R21 with a standard Renault clutch. There are no "race" Renault R21's but a properly modded one can handle up to 450hp. The standard R21 is reliable at about 300hp.

3. Does it have any suspension mods, such as a lowered gearbox via a rear sub frame mod. Or a rear geometry camber change mod to correct the large standard camber gain issue.

If it has a one piece input shaft and LSD, upgraded brakes such as wilwoods and a good setup on the suspension then about 60K is a good price.

The last thing is SB100 California registration? yes/no current state of registration? Yes SB100 = Big +

I don't know this car but it does seam to have a nice clean look. An equally fit out RCR with a porsche gearbox would be worth 90-100K.

You can't buy the parts for either at those prices.

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Old 10-12-2010, 04:22 AM
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The ad says its' a Boss 302 engine but it has regular small block valve covers, not the Cleveland style covers that the Boss 302 has. The exhaust bolts are straight across, not staggered like the Boss, either.

Hmmmm, makes me wonder what other lies are in the description?
And they are definetly NOT NASCAR heads on that engine!!!!!!!!!

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The motor is the biggest issue for me. I don't like iron heads, and I supose it is possible that the block is one of the new replacement boss 4 bolt blocks. The big questions are the solid lifter cam and what the seller says is a custom port job on the iron heads. Lots of questions here.

The first thing I would ask is what oil is in it? If I didn't hear a responce that included Zink additives I wouldn't consider the engine to be one I would want.

Too many flat cams nowadays with the new bad oils.

All in all a fair beginning asking price and a lot of questions, but it could be a very nice car for someone here in California.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:43 PM
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I had a GTD GT40 about 7 years ago and the're actually a pretty neat little car. Lot's of aluminum panels and it handled extremely well. Pics in my gallery. As far as the one on Ebay...it looks like upgraded brakes, nice wheels and done pretty well for the price. The motor may be a Boss 302 as he says it has the screw in freeze plugs and if you look at the 2nd pic of the engine from the back those Holman and Moody valve covers are pretty wide and flat like the Boss 302 covers. I've had 3 Boss 302 and remember seeing some of those covers on a Boss before. Guess it could be the new Boss block from Ford also. Nothing wrong with steel heads as although they are heavier you actually can make better HP with them but I also prefer aluminum. Not a bad price for the car as I traded mine for an aluminum Kirkham FIA and ended up selling that for $70K....Blue RCR is very nice but pretty high price. Ron's #14 was an extremely nice RCRGT40 with big Yates motor and it took him some time to sell his in the mid $70s. If you're going to ask over $100K for one you are going to compete with Ford GTs as you can get in one of those for $ 120 if you look hard enough. The problem with GT40s is small universe of buyers out there vs Cobras.........
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sounds like a space frame car(not a MONO), interior a little cheesy, but overall not a bad price for a Gt with a decent engine with Webers, transaxle is not ideal.

as far as the RCR goes, that one has some really nice features but the price would probably be a record high for an RCR

Just thought I would inject my build cost here, because of this post.

M RCR was built by Race-Car_Replicas at a total cost to me of..................


Yes $108,294.58 and I have all documents to support this.
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You do realize that just because you spent a fortune having someone build it for you does in no way mean it is worth anywhere near that, right?
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Current eBay listing for Allen's car:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...FP%3AUS%3A1123

If I had some loose change lying around the house, I'd buy it.
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You do realize that just because you spent a fortune having someone build it for you does in no way mean it is worth anywhere near that, right?
That's a Bullcrap statement!!!

If that were true it would invalidate the price of every production car sold.

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That's a Bullcrap statement!!!

If that were true it would invalidate the price of every production car sold.

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I think what Pat is trying to say, and this is an extreme example, is that even though you spend $100,000 on "restifying" a Ford Pinto, it's highly unlikely that the owner will ever get anywhere near his money out of his beautifully "restified" Pinto with the 527ci Cammer.
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