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01-10-2017, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by moore_rb
All of the above, plus the fact that you live in Iowa, would make Hurricane a slam-dunk choice, if I were in your shoes...
I can't think of a single, solid technical reason why you would be better off paying transportation on another company's kit - The cash you'll save on shipping will pay for half of your paint job, or maybe your wheels and tires...  |
If we're talking about technical reasons, then Patrick would argue that the ERA comes with an extensive factory assembly manual. Aluminum? Then Kirkham/CSX.
BTW, I've transported several cars over the past years, and transportation cost from coast-to-coast is about $1,000-$1,500. That may buy you the blue and white paint, but that's about it. However, having the factory that makes your Cobra replica nearby is a significant advantage. No doubt. I wish Kirkham wasn't in UT. I'd be visiting them all the time, if they were closer. |
01-10-2017, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
If we're talking about technical reasons, then Patrick would argue that the ERA comes with an extensive factory assembly manual. Aluminum? Then Kirkham/CSX.
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Yep, and Patrick would be right. The ERA blows them all away in that regard....  |
01-10-2017, 02:18 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: All original, with Chevy engine since 1964
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
I've transported several cars over the past years, and transportation cost from coast-to-coast is about $1,000-$1,500.
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In late September, 2016, The best quote I could get to move a "starting and driving" car from St Louis to Phoenix, in a fully enclosed hauler, was $1800 ...
The next time I need a car transported, I'm going to be calling on you to book my waybill for me, hahaha
Every shipper asked me: "is it a kit car?" and "does it have an engine?" - They all wanted to jack the transport rate up another 500-600 bucks if the car was a non-running roller.
My best quote to get a bare fiberglass Mr Bruce body from Pittsburgh to Phoenix was $1200
Fair points about the aluminum body...
Is it worth it to pay the extra shipping on an ERA kit, versus a Hurricane or a Unique? To an ERA owner, I guess it could be... but not to me...
to each, his own. There really are no right or wrong answers to any of this - Everybody makes their final decision based on the criteria that are most important to them...
I wouldn't need ERA's detailed assembly bible to put one of these cars together, so the extra shipping expense from CT would influence my personal decision more heavily than the value of the assembly manual.
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01-10-2017, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moore_rb
In late September, 2016, The best quote I could get to move a "starting and driving" car from St Louis to Phoenix, in a fully enclosed hauler, was $1800 ...
The next time I need a car transported, I'm going to be calling on you to book my waybill for me, hahaha
Every shipper asked me: "is it a kit car?" and "does it have an engine?" - They all wanted to jack the transport rate up another 500-600 bucks if the car was a non-running roller.
My best quote to get a bare fiberglass Mr Bruce body from Pittsburgh to Phoenix was $1200
Fair points about the aluminum body...
Is it worth it to pay the extra shipping on an ERA kit, versus a Hurricane or a Unique? To an ERA owner, I guess it could be... but not to me...
to each, his own. There really are no right or wrong answers to any of this - Everybody makes their final decision based on the criteria that are most important to them...
I wouldn't need ERA's detailed assembly bible to put one of these cars together, so the extra shipping expense from CT would influence my personal decision more heavily than the value of the assembly manual.
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I've used this broker at least 3 times in the past few years. I haven't had a problem yet and they book enclosed or open. I've done both.
Angels Moving Autos
I know my engine-less Kirkham was less than a $1,000 from UT to CA, but that was back in 2007-2008. That company went out of business, but was an advertiser here.
Patrick LOVES his ERA assembly manual. He opines about it all the time. He won't leave home without it. 
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01-10-2017, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Patrick LOVES his ERA assembly manual. He opines about it all the time. He won't leave home without it. |
200 pages of pure gold. And I've been harping for a decade now on why other manufacturers can't produce a detailed service manual. All the "real car" manufacturers do. Even KMS started writing one, and then gave up when it was about half way done. To do a really quality job on a service manual, you pretty much need a mechanical engineer, who is tech savvy, that is dedicated to doing nothing but it -- and that's just too expensive. |
01-10-2017, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
200 pages of pure gold. And I've been harping for a decade now on why other manufacturers can't produce a detailed service manual. All the "real car" manufacturers do. Even KMS started writing one, and then gave up when it was about half way done. To do a really quality job on a service manual, you pretty much need a mechanical engineer, who is tech savvy, that is dedicated to doing nothing but it -- and that's just too expensive.
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However, while not a service manual, there's this 300-page +/- book, which the Kirkham's put together when they built the Billet Cobra for Larry Ellison. It's online here:
http://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/book_aoe/aoe_00.pdf |
01-10-2017, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
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Yes, but after you've read it once, or maybe twice, and gotten tired of seeing it on your coffee table, then you wish you had a plain ol' service manual.  |
01-10-2017, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Yes, but after you've read it once, or maybe twice, and gotten tired of seeing it on your coffee table, then you wish you had a plain ol' service manual. |
Is ERA's manual online? The Kirkham manual is. So, just print it out and you'll have a complete "plain ol' assembly manual of the Kirkham Cobra.
Just stop saying the Kirkham's never completed a manual. They did.  |
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