NYS Inspection

767Jockey · #1 (**permalink**) 01-14-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickpz1

Hi guys!
I'm also from West Islip - if you still need some help with an inspection station let me know I know of 2 that are cobra savvy.
All the best,

Jeez - a tiny town like W.I. with two Cobras, and a wannabe! (me). How 'bout that!

767Jockey · #2 (**permalink**) 01-21-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 767Jockey

Jeez - a tiny town like W.I. with two Cobras, and a wannabe! (me). How 'bout that!

FINALLY!! Make that 3 Cobra's in West Islip - I finally pulled the trigger.

FiveToes, yours is registered as a 2005? I'll try to talk with the guy I know on Bay Shore road and see if he knows of a way to get you through. The one I just bought is registered as a "1984 Homebuilt". I've not heard of one being registered like that before. It'll be interesting to see what challenges that will present when the time comes. When you were rejected, did they document anything that would prevent you from going to another inspection station to try again? If not, I'll see if Chris can try to get you through. I'll let you know. I'm going to PM you my phone number and email. Keep in touch, hopefully we can get you some help.
Doug

Jim Kellogg · #3 (**permalink**) 01-21-2007, 12:21 PM

fivetoes,
I live in upstate NY, and my SPF went through the DMV "Custom" process, and received a new VIN and Title describing it as a (year) 2005 (make) Custom (model code) N/A and has the NY assigned VIN beginning NYxxxxx.

My reg/title does not state *NYMA*, but as you stated, rules may be different for downstate (high emission) and upstate (low emission)...
I have managed dealership service departments for over 25 years, and have a good deal of 'real world' experience with the NY DMV. If this is going to be a problem, fortunately I have some DMV contacts so we can get some answers.

One concern I have is that our cars are now over *2* years old as far as the DMV inspection process is concerned (which is computerized/automated at all NYS Inspection stattions). As of 2007, all 2005 and older (thru 1996) vehicles undergo an OBDII connection (and test) as part of the inspection process. All current and previous to current year vehicles (now 2007 and 2006) only undergo a safety inspection. When they turn over 2 years old, they must have the OBDII inspection, for which our "Custom" vehicles will not have an OBDII connector for.
For the first 2 years, my SPF comes up on the state inspection machine as a 2005 Custom (the VIN can be scanned from the registration sticker on the windshield or manually entered using the VIN on the BRIGHT YELLOW tag applied to the vehicle by the DMV when they inspected the car), and only required the safety inspection. I don't know from experience (yet) what will happen for this year's inspection - it SHOULD continue to bypass the OBDII connection part of the inspection because of the "Custom" VIN in the title. This is what I was told back in 2005 when I titled and registered the car in NYS.

Has anyone here passed a NYS Inspection this year (2007) with a 2005 or older "Custom" title? If not, I will run mine through to see what happens (it is not due until September of this year) and give you the results here....

FYI, I have heard from the DMV that (soon) the downstate inspection will no longer use the dyno, and will be basically the same as our upstate inspection (OBDII connection and test for readiness monitors only). If this hasn't happened already, when it does it should make life much simpler for the Metro areas.

My question (for the NY DMV, if you are listening) is, did my/our cars pass the NYS inspection the first 2 years because it was running "safety only inspections" - because of the year, or did it bypass the emissions phase because of the "Custom" make in the title?

One last question for fivetoes....
Is your FFR legitimately titled as a "Custom" because it went through the DMV "Custom" process (inspected by the DMV, assigned a VIN by the state, ect), or is that simply the make and year you used to register the vehicle?
If you went through that whole DMV process, this is not good....

Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY

767Jockey · #4 (**permalink**) 01-21-2007, 01:06 PM

Guys, speaking of the bright yellow NYS DMV tag, they placed it on top of the cowl on my car, on the paint, behind the windshield where the inspection sticker is. It's sort of an eyesore. I'd much rather have it under the hood somewhere. Do any of you guys have it under the hood? I'll probably destroy this one if I remove it - any idea through experience how difficult it is to get a replacement? I'd go to the DMV to ask, but only as a last resort - every trip there, no matter how innocuous, turns into a nightmare.

Tariq Abdullah · #5 (**permalink**) 01-21-2007, 01:15 PM

I have my FFR Mk II titled as a 2004 Custom Convertible...
They placed the Yellow VIN Sticker on the frame rail, under the dash near the steering shaft.

Jim Kellogg · #6 (**permalink**) 01-21-2007, 01:38 PM

My BRIGHT YELLOW VIN sticker was placed in the door opening of the driver door. Compound inside curve - the sticker wrinkled when he put it on and it looks awful (but the car IS registered legit) - the DMV inspector insisted that it had to be visible without opening the hood.

Glad he didn't put it on the cowl above the dash!!!

I have seen the NY VIN sticker in a different place in every car. An ERA had the sticker under the hood (on the firewall), other SPF had it inside the car on the LF kick panel.

Tariq...
Tell us about your last (2006) NY inspection. What did they do? Safety only?
thanks,
Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY

fivetoes · #7 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Kellogg

fivetoes,
I live in upstate NY, and my SPF went through the DMV "Custom" process, and received a new VIN and Title describing it as a (year) 2005 (make) Custom (model code) N/A and has the NY assigned VIN beginning NYxxxxx.

My reg/title does not state *NYMA*, but as you stated, rules may be different for downstate (high emission) and upstate (low emission)...
I have managed dealership service departments for over 25 years, and have a good deal of 'real world' experience with the NY DMV. If this is going to be a problem, fortunately I have some DMV contacts so we can get some answers.

One concern I have is that our cars are now over *2* years old as far as the DMV inspection process is concerned (which is computerized/automated at all NYS Inspection stattions). As of 2007, all 2005 and older (thru 1996) vehicles undergo an OBDII connection (and test) as part of the inspection process. All current and previous to current year vehicles (now 2007 and 2006) only undergo a safety inspection. When they turn over 2 years old, they must have the OBDII inspection, for which our "Custom" vehicles will not have an OBDII connector for.
For the first 2 years, my SPF comes up on the state inspection machine as a 2005 Custom (the VIN can be scanned from the registration sticker on the windshield or manually entered using the VIN on the BRIGHT YELLOW tag applied to the vehicle by the DMV when they inspected the car), and only required the safety inspection. I don't know from experience (yet) what will happen for this year's inspection - it SHOULD continue to bypass the OBDII connection part of the inspection because of the "Custom" VIN in the title. This is what I was told back in 2005 when I titled and registered the car in NYS.

Has anyone here passed a NYS Inspection this year (2007) with a 2005 or older "Custom" title? If not, I will run mine through to see what happens (it is not due until September of this year) and give you the results here....

FYI, I have heard from the DMV that (soon) the downstate inspection will no longer use the dyno, and will be basically the same as our upstate inspection (OBDII connection and test for readiness monitors only). If this hasn't happened already, when it does it should make life much simpler for the Metro areas.

My question (for the NY DMV, if you are listening) is, did my/our cars pass the NYS inspection the first 2 years because it was running "safety only inspections" - because of the year, or did it bypass the emissions phase because of the "Custom" make in the title?

One last question for fivetoes....
Is your FFR legitimately titled as a "Custom" because it went through the DMV "Custom" process (inspected by the DMV, assigned a VIN by the state, ect), or is that simply the make and year you used to register the vehicle?
If you went through that whole DMV process, this is not good....

Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY

Jim, I went through the whole NYS homebuilt registration process totally legit.It was pretty straightforward as you know. I spoke to Tech Services today and he feels I should have had no problems with the inspection. He suspects as JAM did, that he did not enter the info properly. I will try again with my service station and if I have no luck I'll have him call Tech. I'll be sure to let everyone know how I make out. Thanksto everyone for all the help.

JAM1775 · #8 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 05:01 PM

Good Luck guys.
Look forward to seeing you on the road this spring !

Oh....almost forgot ............stay away from that guy Nickpz1.
He's a real hot rodder and will get you into trouble !!

Jim Kellogg · #9 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 05:24 PM

Wasn't able to drive the SPF to work today to run it through a NYS Inspection to see what would come up - it snowed all day

fivetoes,
I am sure you will be all right if your inspection station calls Tech at the DMV. My biggest concern is that because we are heading into 'year 3' of inspections for our 2005 Custom registrations, the system might not properly identify our cars as NOT requiring the OBDII portion of the inspection that all other 2005 vehicles will have to pass for the first time. I am also curious how the machine will outline the process for the inspector - that's why I want to run mine through early, and if neccesary outline any special proceedures that the inspector might have to take....

How's the weather down your way?
Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY