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Old 12-11-2009, 10:12 AM
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Here in NE Ohio, Cleveland schools have only a graduation percentage of around 30%, hows that for no one left behind. If you look in depth into this subject it will scare, and infuriate you, at what is happening in the classroom.
Then theirs the University system,which is totally inept, in all of this its the system to blame, their are many good teachers and professors doing their best.
The bottom line is that the classroom of 50,100,or even 150 years ago were superior in many ways compared to todays classroom. Just look at the McGuffey Reader used in the mid 1800's and see the quality of what a third grader had to be able to read and comprehend.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:24 AM
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Some time back someone posted a copy of a test that 6th graders I believe it was had to take back years ago. I dare say none of our help them out because it would hurt their egos to be left behind, could have answered two questions on it. I have an electric fence and a year or so ago I stood out there and listened to two girls and two boys from the local high school trying to figure out what those small yellow signs said. The electrified wire is high tensile barb wire. They were spelling out each word real slow and trying to figure out what it said. After about 5 minutes one of them said, "It must be Electric and the other word has to be fence." So to prove it one of them reached up and grabbed the barb wire. I have the pulse type unit and it will knock the devil out of you. But they now know what Electric Fence is. But on the other side we do have some very intelligent kids here and they are having trouble getting an education because these party freaks keep throwing and text messaging in the class room and the teachers aren't allowed to do anything but stand and watch. Our school board is as dumb as they come on top of that. So it really makes it hard on the kids that want to learn and go on to college.

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Old 12-11-2009, 11:04 AM
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The system isn't a whole lot better up here but I think that the teachers try to get the lazy kids to sit in the back of the class room and just shut up. At least this gives a chance to the kids that want to learn.

I teach part time in the evenings at McGill University in Montreal. The first night I ask the students if anyone has a cell phone. Immediately a whole bunch of phones appear. I then tell them that I also have a phone but mine is in my vehicle and I go on to tell them that all they have to do is have that stupid phone ring just once in my class to get on my bad side. I get really good cooperation that way. Of course these mature students are paying for their courses themselves so they want to learn. It is very different compared to high school.

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