WHY do you worry about Socialism?

[Excaliber]

Gasp! You mean some folks are abusing welfare and food stamps? How about Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid? Should we end all these programs immediately because of this abuse of the system? Because were tired of supporting these "bottom feeders"? Should we cut them all off right now? Let them starve then, including any homeless Veterans! Let them freeze in their house during this blizzard, no more heat subsidies for you bottom feeders. No more homeless shelters, they made their bed, let them lay in their own filth.

I don't know man, that sounds a little bit "facist" to me. Maybe our concern about socialism is a bit skewed here...

Or maybe, just maybe, some of these programs and some future programs actually have merit and are worth considering?

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Gasp! You mean some folks are abusing welfare and food stamps? How about Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid? Should we end all these programs immediately because of this abuse of the system? Because were tired of supporting these "bottom feeders"? Should we cut them all off right now? Let them starve then, including any homeless Veterans! Let them freeze in their house during this blizzard, no more heat subsidies for you bottom feeders. No more homeless shelters, they made their bed, let them lay in their own filth.

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Yes...except for the Vets. They should want for nuthin.

[Wes Tausend]

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I watched the video, The American Form of Government. Some of it is actually true, but I believe much of it is seriously misleading to the unwary. Nice presentation, anyway.

I recently ran across this "ISM" video from 1948.

That year must have been about the time that Ike warned us about a large Capitalist group having gained the power to destroy us from within. The ISM video is a popular propoganda cartoon around the time of McCarthyism, ironically another ISM. The Eisenhower prediction is pretty much what recently brought the USA to its knees, runaway Capitalism. Like runaway Labor, only worse. Don't be swayed by high dollar propoganda from handwringing Capitalists hoarding the wealth that all of us contributed to. We are a long way from full Socialism. Balance is the key.

Originally Posted by Excaliber
Gasp! You mean some folks are abusing welfare and food stamps? How about Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid? Should we end all these programs immediately because of this abuse of the system? Because were tired of supporting these "bottom feeders"? Should we cut them all off right now? Let them starve then, including any homeless Veterans! Let them freeze in their house during this blizzard, no more heat subsidies for you bottom feeders. No more homeless shelters, they made their bed, let them lay in their own filth.

Originally Posted by Jamo

Yes...except for the Vets. They should want for nuthin.

Jamo,

If a man were to visit the battlefield and ask said generic Veteran what he is fighting for, he is likely to pull out pictures of his family. Perhaps a cocky few would say "Old Glory", but they would soon admit that the flag doesn't mean much without family.

So should we provide "...want for nuthin" for the people the Vet is willing to die for? His wife, daughter, son? How about his sister and brother, his parents? And where would be the limit, 1st cousins only, no 2nd cousins?

Jeepers, that's about all of us that ever had a family member serve. And that is the problem.

Wes

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[SP01715]

Originally Posted by Wes Tausend

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I watched the video, The American Form of Government. Some of it is actually true, but I believe much of it is seriously misleading to the unwary. Nice presentation, anyway.

I recently ran across this "ISM" video from 1948.

That year must have been about the time that Ike warned us about a large Capitalist group having gained the power to destroy us from within. The ISM video is a popular propoganda cartoon around the time of McCarthyism, ironically another ISM. The Eisenhower prediction is pretty much what recently brought the USA to its knees, runaway Capitalism. Like runaway Labor, only worse. Don't be swayed by high dollar propoganda from handwringing Capitalists hoarding the wealth that all of us contributed to. We are a long way from full Socialism. Balance is the key.

Government interference in the lending system was the main cause of the current economic collapse. Banks forced to make loans to people that could not afford them. You can thank Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in large part for this mess.

The government taking control of more of the economy is an increase is socialist policy. The government should be limited by the constitution, but they have been trampling on it for a long time. If we let capatilism work we would be much better off in the long run. People that can't afford their loans should lose their houses. Companies that can't afford to stay in business should go out of business. Their needs to be failure for our system to survive. Inflation is coming, and the more money this government prints will only make it worse.


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