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Old 01-15-2010, 08:45 AM
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Bailout Recipients Updated: Jan 13, 2010
http://bailout.propublica.org/main/list/index

Companies That Have Refunded Bailout Money
http://bailout.propublica.org/main/list/refunds


Total Actually Invested or Loaned:
$331,668,631,451

Total Returned:
$143,113,379,000

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Old 01-15-2010, 08:55 AM
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You guys who are in favor of taxing the banks are (said with love) fools.

All you are doing is ensuring that you will pay more for everything in the future. All costs are passed on eventually. Economics (in my book) is not a zero-sum game, but its always funded (eventually) by the individual. Who else? (even if Obama says they will not pass it on)

So, tax the banks. Tax the corporate failures. Tax tax tax tax tax them all. In the end, YOU pay the tax. And people smarter than you (oddly, the politicians) laugh all the way to the bank while you feel better that the big bad corporate machine paid more taxes (which they passed onto you in ways you do not understand). Phuck me, the more I think about it, the more I feel like we really do exist in a Matrix.

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You want to know why we will never have a flat tax or fair tax system? It's because of this stuff we are seeing now. If there were such a system, government would not be able to control you like they do now (hiding individual taxation under corporate guises). Federal & State taxation as experienced by the individual now extends from January to April or early May. Total taxation (hidden taxes, fees, etc) extends that to late September. Under Obama, this could go as far as November. Thats right. 1-2 months out of the year is YOUR money. This is what you get to spend or save however you like.

In 1900, Tax Freedom Day was Jan 22.

Anytime you say Yay for taxes because it is on somebody else, you fool yourself. Because eventually, it falls on you.

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