Big Brother will be Watching

[Tom Kirkham]

Autos Insider | U.S. to propose mandatory vehicle 'black boxes' | The Detroit News

[Dennis Mosley]

Big brother has been watching for a few years now. The just didn't talk about it too much.

[Wbulk]

I knew about ten years ago the Highway Patrol was pulling the boxes after high speed accidents with Corvettes when there was a serious injury involved. I would emagine they would pull them from any car involved in a fatality. It would have to be serious enough to justify the cost. They have to send it out to a lab, or did then to retrieve the data. More concerning than that is I read an article a few years back where Calif. was considering downloading the data from your car as you drove past reciever locations. It would capture your speed data. They could easily do this the same way On-Star works and can read trouble codes, unlock your doors and so forth. I think this will become an issue as the technology becomes cheaper.

Wayne

[ACademic]

Cops added radar and companies developed radar detectors. Someone will come up with a fancy way to defeat these black boxes...and people like me will be writing them checks.

[Paul F]

It's a good thing. Vehicles are the most lethal item most Americans use every day. The least we can do is have accurate data about the use of them. It beats the heck out of eyewitnesses.

Traffic fatalities per year - 40,000
Airplane fatalities per year - 1000

If you want privacy;

Use cash - they monitor your every purchase for habits
Turn your cell phone off. They can track your position with some accuracy by triangulating your signal from the towers, in or out of your car.

Turn your computer off. They know every website you visit.

And put tape over your computer camera and break the microphone.

[bobcowan]

Originally Posted by Paul F

It's a good thing. .

No, it isn't. Name one instance where government monitoring of private citizens going about their lives has urned out to be good for the citizens. The only reason the gov't wants to moniter you is so they can control you.

[jolsen42]

Originally Posted by bobcowan

No, it isn't. Name one instance where government monitoring of private citizens going about their lives has urned out to be good for the citizens. The only reason the gov't wants to moniter you is so they can control you.

Amen.

John O

[FWB]

Originally Posted by bobcowan

No, it isn't. Name one instance where government monitoring of private citizens going about their lives has urned out to be good for the citizens. The only reason the gov't wants to moniter you is so they can control you.

double amen.....

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Paul F

It's a good thing. Vehicles are the most lethal item most Americans use every day. The least we can do is have accurate data about the use of them. It beats the heck out of eyewitnesses.

Traffic fatalities per year - 40,000
Airplane fatalities per year - 1000

If you want privacy;

Use cash - they monitor your every purchase for habits
Turn your cell phone off. They can track your position with some accuracy by triangulating your signal from the towers, in or out of your car.

Turn your computer off. They know every website you visit.

And put tape over your computer camera and break the microphone.

Or you can do ike me and wear the hat made out of aluminum foil to keep the "thought waves" out........

[thorconstr]

Originally Posted by Paul F

It's a good thing. Vehicles are the most lethal item most Americans use every day. The least we can do is have accurate data about the use of them. It beats the heck out of eyewitnesses.

Traffic fatalities per year - 40,000
Airplane fatalities per year - 1000

If you want privacy;

Use cash - they monitor your every purchase for habits
Turn your cell phone off. They can track your position with some accuracy by triangulating your signal from the towers, in or out of your car.

Turn your computer off. They know every website you visit.

And put tape over your computer camera and break the microphone.

They ought to put black boxes on people that smoke before they do cars!

In the United States, tobacco use is responsible for about one in five deaths annually (i.e., about 443,000 deaths per year, and an estimated 49,000 of these tobacco-related deaths are the result of secondhand smoke exposure).

Alcohol related deaths are greater than vehicle deaths, black box?

Alcohol linked to 75,000 U.S. deaths a year - Health - Addictions - msnbc.com

[BOURRET]

Originally Posted by Paul F

It's a good thing. Vehicles are the most lethal item most Americans use every day. The least we can do is have accurate data about the use of them. It beats the heck out of eyewitnesses.

Traffic fatalities per year - 40,000
Airplane fatalities per year - 1000

If you want privacy;

Use cash - they monitor your every purchase for habits
Turn your cell phone off. They can track your position with some accuracy by triangulating your signal from the towers, in or out of your car.

Turn your computer off. They know every website you visit.

And put tape over your computer camera and break the microphone.

And how many domestic (home ) fatalities.
In France: population about 60 millions. Road fatalities: 4000 and home(domestic) fatalities: 20 000!!!

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by BOURRET

And how many domestic (home ) fatalities.
In France: population about 60 millions. Road fatalities: 4000 and home(domestic) fatalities: 20 000!!!

There's a joke in here somewhere.

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

There's a joke in here somewhere.

Yep, you're leaving yourself wide open with that line!

[BOURRET]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

There's a joke in here somewhere.

These are official statistics meaning that it is 5 times more dangerous in home than being on the road. So, if officials want to take care about our safety, they have to watch what is going on inside our homes!!

[jbmatth]

Whether they are planning to use them as a way to control us, fine us, tax us, whatever. Just one more reason to drive the cobra more often.

[FWB]

wait......doesn't everyone wear tin foil hats?


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[Hydramada]

Who is John Galt?

[jolsen42]

Originally Posted by Hydramada

Who is John Galt?

That my friend is the direction we are heading.

John O

[Maurice Johnson]

Originally Posted by Hydramada

Who is John Galt?

I'd settle for a photo of Dagny in the dress she wore to Rearden's party.

[DAVID GAGNARD]

Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham

Autos Insider | U.S. to propose mandatory vehicle 'black boxes' | The Detroit News

They are proposing a seperate date recovery system to the electronics already in autos....

But, before everyone starts making tin foil hats, you already have a similar system in your daily driver if it was made from the early 90's on.......It's called an ECM, or electronic control module, the main computer in cars/trucks that controls any and all electrical functions of a vehicle.......
they vary by type and brand, have a 15 to 30 second "loop"......if you bring your car/truck into a dealer for repairs, the first thing they do it plug into this and look for "faults" in the system to diagnose your problem. Anyone with the correct equipment can do this...
some of the things found in the ECM is ALL engine functions, rpms,transmission gear selection,brake pressure on the pedal and so forth and so on....by knowing the trans. gear selection and engine rpms, they can calculate the speed of the auto........this and other functions found can tell what has happeend in the last 15 to 30 seconds the engine was running.....
good/bad/ugly, it's already there, and at least on GM products been there since the early 90's........
don't ask how I know this, just take my word for it.....

David