Speed Limit

[wtm442]

In this world of politically correctness, have we gone off the deep end?

Can anyone tell me the difference between "Speed Limit" and Fundamental Speed Limit"? That sign is on a side street in my home town.



Maybe its Fund-a-mental .. give money to the feeble minded?

[392cobra]

Is there a church near by ???

[wtm442]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

Is there a church near by ???

Nope. No church, no school, no frogs ... just a residential area.

[HI Cobra]

Maybe the sign makers made more $ with the extra printing?

[Ron61]

Normally Fundamental would mean a basis or basic starting point. In this case maybe it means you can use 30 MPH as your basic speed but go faster. Why not try doing 60 and see if they stop you. Then you could claim the sign is vague and doesn't state a top speed limit. Let me know how you come out with our experiment.

Ron

[EarlsflyinCobra]

As recently reported in Nature (428, 831-833 [22 April 2004]), an experiment performed at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center has now shown the existence of a fundamental speed limit.

Speed Limit of Magnetic Recording

Hey Warren, this only refers to your magnetic recording devices, so go as fast as you want..........................................:LOL :

http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/re...t_summary.html

[trularin]

In this case, I would examine the state in which the posting resides.

[cobra de capell]

The Fundamental part - prohibits drivers from exceeding a safe speed regardless of the posted speed limit.

[Ron61]

Ray,

Don't you mean is supposed to prohibit them? I haven't seen a posted speed limit, stop sign, or stop light of any kind that stops drivers around here from exceeding the limits. I believe it was Wyoming that used to have a no posted speed limit and it was up to the state police to decide if a person was driving to fast for the conditions. I don't care for that as one may stop you for doing 40 and the next one won't stop you if you are doing 90. And now with the new phones, we no longer have to worry about people talking and running through lights. They will be playing games on the Internet.

Ron

[cobra de capell]

My post was from the MS DMV site - apparently you can go, for example, 30 (as posted) but still get a speeding ticket if something happens at or under the posted speed, as well as over that speed - seems strange to me.

[wtm442]

Cobra De capel ...

I went to the MA RMV site and found this ....

- - - - - - - - - - - - -
SPEED LIMITS
Driving too fast (speeding) is one of the major causes of motor vehicle crashes. Because it is a safety issue, speed laws in Massachusetts are
strictly enforced and carry severe penalties (see Chapter Two). The faster you drive, the greater the distance you need to react to a situation and
to stop your vehicle safely.

The fundamental speed law for motor vehicles is that you must never travel faster than is reasonable and proper for the current conditions and public safety.

Regardless of what a posted speed limit sign says, how fast you drive must depend on several factors:
blah, blah, blah ........
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Translation of DoubleSpeak
Even if you are going slower that the posted limits, the police can nail your a$$ for speeding if they want to based upon the undefined "current conditions".

[trularin]

Does that mean you get a fundamental ticket?

[cobra de capell]

The "Fundamental" part is new to me - I'm betting that there is a Fundamental section on the tickets. Sounds a little subjective - I do wonder how it goes in court - the officer can be fundamentally wrong relating to his view of the fundamental conditions.

[Ron61]

Which brings us back to Wyoming I think it was that had no posted speed limits and the state police decided if you were going to fast. I think that has been changed due to so many discrepancies in tickets. One person gets a ticket for doing 50 on a certain place and day and another does 80 and it is ok. I don't think deciding if a vehicle is going to fast for conditions on a dry, clear day should be up to the police, hence I prefer posted signs.
Warren just drive like you always do and the signs won't have anything to do with it anyway.

Ron

[wtm442]

Based upon the congestion on that street, even 30 MPH is a little too fast IMHO. The houses are built side by side with cars parked on both sides, so a straight drive down the street is impossible. Just wondering if anyone else had seen such a sign.

[Ron61]

Warren,

No I haven't seen a sign like that here but I have seen two one way signs on the same post with the arrows pointing both directions. After calling the city to find out what was going on, they said they just had one sign that had the arrow pointing in the correct direction, so they used the other one instead of paying to have a new sign made.

Ron

[trularin]

Okay, so you are fundamentally driving along and you see this fundamental speed limit and you fundamentally exceed it to which a policeman fundamentally pulls you over and hands you a fundamental speeding ticket for breaking the fundamental speed limit. You go to fundamental court and answer fundamental questions about your fundamental infraction of the fundamental speed limit to which you fundamentally pay a fine.

Fundamentally speaking...of course.

[wtm442]

I was right Tru - its really for:

Fund - a - mental, and you are the first candidate. The check is in the mail. Now please stop drooling, and ask the nurse for your meds.

[Ron61]

Boy Tru,

You walked into that one. Warren must have been talking it over with turtle to come up with an answer like that. Wonder what Frenchy would have came up with.

Ron

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Boy Tru,

You walked into that one. Warren must have been talking it over with turtle to come up with an answer like that. Wonder what Frenchy would have came up with.

Ron

After asked to and spending time checking out Frenchy's a$$,she only has nice things to say about Tru.