Vick accepts plea agreement

[hey,littlecobra]

hey, I was just being a smarta$$! I totally agree....
I'm WAITING to see it turn into a race deal, tho'.

I don't go to or watch pro sports and even the former excitement of watching college is gone. The sports pedestal is disgusting.

I watch my kids in jr./sr. high sports, and that's good enough for me.

Years ago you could watch a pro game like football or baseball and actually enjoy it. I'd go to a Rangers game and HAVE FUN with the players- and even get tossed a couple of balls from the dugout. The enjoyment of even going to a Rangers game is gone. I couldn't care less if it was a 'losing season'. I love to watch baseball! But ALL major sports have turned into a money pit and the players are frequently immune to any kind of standard. They forget where they came from; fans turn the other way.... And the 'management'?? ugh......
back atya Buzz, I was just playing around.


edit to add.... and the more I think about it, the more this ALL bothers me! Anybody wanna tell me those smart sports guys get an EDUCATION from these colleges, universities??
Isn't that what college is SUPPOSED to do? Give you a better education so you can have more knowledge and information and consequently get a better job?? I got my BS (no, i wasn't spouting bs) and made x amount of money. Got my MEd, and got a little more. I cannot believe that these talented but stupid sports figures have actually learned anything!
I went to Baylor U in Waco my freshman year. I was in 'dumb math students freshman math class'. So was this very well known STAR football player. He was a senior. in a freshman math class. Whaddya think?? He got a degree from Baylor. But.... can he do math?? hmmmmmm
Can any of these current stars do anything??
I do not refer to stars like Roger Dodger, or any of the stars from 30 years ago. They were all smart back then, and cute and played football really well. (roger staubach, my hero, btw)

[Silverback51]

I seen a picture of one of the his dogs after a fight.

As far as I'm concerned they can lock him up forever.

[bomelia]

If the NFL wants to continue to be a reality, they had better watch out for the soccer moms. In the home, the first line of defense is mom...(least wise in ours it is). What can and cannot be watched is largely up to her. The NFL needs to have a "role model" clause... a standard. If players do not live up to the standard...they are out. Period. Vick should never come back. He has a right to earn a living...but not in the NFL. Too bad, too sad. My kids will not be exposed to a$$holes like him. Same goes for all the other sports. The "bad boy" era should be over. Do drugs? You are out. Zero Tolerance. Steal a pizza? You are out. Rape a girl? Out. Gamble? Out. DUI? Out. Punch a fan? Out. Steroids? OUT. Zero tolerance will end it all. Our kids have to deal with zero tolerance at school every day. These freaking primadonas should have to also. I deal with zero tolerance at work...and so do most of you.

Mike

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by bomelia

If the NFL wants to continue to be a reality, they had better watch out for the soccer moms. In the home, the first line of defense is mom...(least wise in ours it is). What can and cannot be watched is largely up to her. The NFL needs to have a "role model" clause... a standard. If players do not live up to the standard...they are out. Period. Vick should never come back. He has a right to earn a living...but not in the NFL. Too bad, too sad. My kids will not be exposed to a$$holes like him. Same goes for all the other sports. The "bad boy" era should be over. Do drugs? You are out. Zero Tolerance. Steal a pizza? You are out. Rape a girl? Out. Gamble? Out. DUI? Out. Punch a fan? Out. Steroids? OUT. Zero tolerance will end it all. Our kids have to deal with zero tolerance at school every day. These freaking primadonas should have to also. I deal with zero tolerance at work...and so do most of you.

Mike

Mike-agree with your sentiment but for that to happen all rapes charges would have to be legit(they're not)
All DUI charges would have to be(the laws are skewed to revenue people-not get drunks off the road)
Gamble?Please who gives a $hit?The gambling clause in pro sports came about as a result of the 1919 Black Sox.This situation simply can not happen.Pete Rose is proof of this gambling rule being bull$hit.
Steroids,Pot?Again who gives a crap?
Lastly,professional athletes ARE NOT role models-so why the hell should we ask them to behave like such?

[bomelia]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Mike-agree with your sentiment but for that to happen all rapes charges would have to be legit(they're not)
All DUI charges would have to be(the laws are skewed to revenue people-not get drunks off the road)
Gamble?Please who gives a $hit?The gambling clause in pro sports came about as a result of the 1919 Black Sox.This situation simply can not happen.Pete Rose is proof of this gambling rule being bull$hit.
Steroids,Pot?Again who gives a crap?
Lastly,professional athletes ARE NOT role models-so why the hell should we ask them to behave like such?

They absolutely ARE role models!! Ask Nike, Adidas, et al. As such, they should be held to a standard. And as one who helps pay their bloated salaries, I get to expect as much. Or I stop watching. And paying.

Don't make excuses for rape, drug use, gambling, and DUIers. I give a $hit. That's who. And if you know me via my posts, I am being very consistent on this.

Mike

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by bomelia

(1)They absolutely ARE role models!! (6)Ask Nike, Adidas, et al. (2)As such, they should be held to a standard. And as one who helps pay their bloated salaries, (3)I get to expect as much. Or I stop watching. And paying.

(4)Don't make excuses for rape, drug use, gambling, and DUIers. (5) I give a $hit. That's who. And if you know me via my posts, I am being very consistent on this.

Mike

1-Bull$hit
2-agreed-But they are still not role models.
3-you expect too much
4-don't put words in my mouth-I said if there is going to be a zero tolerance Policy( which is horse$hit to begin with)then ALL CHARGES must be legitimate.And they're not.
Are you advocating taking away a mans lively-hood based on trumped-up/bogus accusations along the lines of the Duke LaCrosse Team?
5-The only people making noise about pot & steroids is the government.That should be a big enough clue alone.
6-those companies would say they(the althletes) are company spokesmen.As spokesmen they would have a responsibilty to the company to act according ly.But role models-Sorry Bubba-no sale.

[Silverback51]

From CNN

ATLANTA -- Nearly one month ago, hundreds of African-American supporters of Michael Vick rallied outside the Georgia Dome.

Now, after Vick accepted a plea deal on dogfighting charges, some of those supporters said Monday that Vick let them down.

“I shed a tear,” said Gerald Rose, head of the civil rights group New Order. “I’m sad right now.”


Rose organized the pro-Vick demonstration. He, like many black Vick fans, still stand behind the Falcons superstar, despite expectations that he’ll be going to prison.

Rose said Monday that Vick now has to regain the public’s trust.

"What he needs to do when he comes out is to call a press conference and explain where a young man making 130 million dollars would get caught up in something like that,” Rose said.

Fans at Playmakers Barber Shop in Midtown said they still support Vick, because they feel he is innocent, and that he is a victim of a racist judicial system.

"It's bad. I don't condone it at all, but the punishment is too severe, (they’re ruining) a man's career," said barber Dontrell Mapp.

Black civil rights leaders said Vick should be given one more chance.

"This is what we look for, for people to take a stand for what is right and admit they made a mistake," said Charles Steele, president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.

Vick supporters will rally again Monday night, before the Atlanta Falcons’ preseason game with the Cincinnati Bengals.

More than half of the team's season ticket holders are African-American.