The Fence

[bomelia]

Originally Posted by Venamm

I refuse to discuss this with you because once again you love to hate, you love to point fingers (never at home) and you seem to pull fictitious facts from mid air.

Talk about pulling fictitious facts from the air. You sir do not know me. As such, you have little right to make such statements.

Lucky? My relatives came here LEGALLY through Ellis Island during the Potato Blight in Ireland. Lucky? Yes. Legally? Yes. What did your realtives do? Sprout from the ground?

BTW, the Berring Land Straight theory has detractors and supporters. Don't give me this crap about a few historians having a different opinion. Also, do not dissect my posts. It is elitist and annoying.

I now reverse my statement about you gaining a bit of a sense of humor. You have very little humor based on that statement and your understanding of me. The second half of my post was meant was said in jest, and those that KNOW me know that. You refuse to take time to get to know folks...just charge into the bar and start throwing punches. Not very nice of you. Bad boy.

Mike

[VRM]

Mike,
You don't know him either, yet you threw the first punch just for presenting something you didn't like. Knock off the righteous indignation act - it is not going to get you anywhere.

Venamm, the tribes came in through Alaska. So Canada can blame the US for allowing the tribes to migrate. But since Russia owned it before we did...It's all the fault of the commies!!
And Mike is right - most of our ancestors came here through legal means after a government was set up. The problem we have is illegal immigrants. We have a legal means set up to allow people from just about any country to live in the US. We plan our resources around allowing in a pre-determined number of people. We have too many people entering the country, and they are throwing off those numbers. This ends up costing Americans more money to support them. The majority happens to be Mexican, but there are other nationalities as well. I would agree with you that Americans sometimes think that their poo don't stink, but in this case it has nothing to do with that. There is no racism or national superiority involved as the illegals are from a number of countries.

Steve

[imagine2frolic]

VRM,

You smooth talker YOU ...... that's what I said, but it sounded a whole lot better from you....

[VRM]

Originally Posted by imagine2frolic

VRM,

You smooth talker YOU ...... that's what I said, but it sounded a whole lot better from you....

Flattery will get you...

Ok, I agree with I2F!!

Steve

[imagine2frolic]

I am ROFL MY A$$ OFF

[bomelia]

All I am saying is, don't come into a forum and start throwing punches as a newbie. Yes, you are a newbie until you hit some undefined level of posts...means you at least know the personalities. Me hate? Hate who? I did NOT throw any first punch. Go back and read the threads with an open mind. Its election season, and they are coming out of the woodwork again.

Venamm has a very appropriate user name.

Mike

[Venamm]

Originally Posted by bomelia

I now reverse my statement about you gaining a bit of a sense of humor. You have very little humor based on that statement and your understanding of me. The second half of my post was meant was said in jest, and those that KNOW me know that. You refuse to take time to get to know folks...just charge into the bar and start throwing punches. Not very nice of you. Bad boy.

Mike

Well well....now who has the case of the "thin shinnies" (your saying)??...lol
Listen big boy, if you can dish it out learn to take it. The posts speak for them selves. What I mean by that is; first time confronting each other YOU sir were rude and obnoxious. How do you expect people to be nice to you and forward respect if you can not, and will not give it yourself. Lead by example.

I am a real nice guy, but I TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY THEY TREAT ME.......If you claim I "was coming around" do you think I am trying to gain you acceptance?

I have tried to be nice to you but sir you offer little for motive. It seems every little thing you write bashes my country my home and where my family calls home. You would do no different. I love my country and you should stop. You should know better coming from a 3rd generation Irish decent that knows struggle.

I also own a home in Florida. I love both flags. Both countries have the good points and bad. I do not want to air my opinion on this any longer.

So I ask for the last time let us call it off and stop the country bashing and I will drop my arms.
Ball is in your court.

[Venamm]

Originally Posted by bomelia

Venamm has a very appropriate user name.

Mike

Folks there he goes again,...he doesn't know how to quit.
By the way my user name is my last name and now you have insulted my family and i will make sure the Italian heritage council hears about that too.

[Venamm]

Originally Posted by VRM

Mike,
You don't know him either, yet you threw the first punch just for presenting something you didn't like. Knock off the righteous indignation act - it is not going to get you anywhere.

Venamm, the tribes came in through Alaska. So Canada can blame the US for allowing the tribes to migrate. But since Russia owned it before we did...It's all the fault of the commies!!
And Mike is right - most of our ancestors came here through legal means after a government was set up. The problem we have is illegal immigrants. We have a legal means set up to allow people from just about any country to live in the US. We plan our resources around allowing in a pre-determined number of people. We have too many people entering the country, and they are throwing off those numbers. This ends up costing Americans more money to support them. The majority happens to be Mexican, but there are other nationalities as well. I would agree with you that Americans sometimes think that their poo don't stink, but in this case it has nothing to do with that. There is no racism or national superiority involved as the illegals are from a number of countries.

Steve

VRM
I don't know you well but at first impressions you seem kind and logical. You are correct if you have the time go back and read the threads he was the first to attack.

I understand the legal versus illegal we have our share here too. But they come not by border crossing but by visitors visa's. Common wealth countries have a freedom sort of speak to travel to other CW counties, and then they don't leave. The big ones are Jamaicans and East Indians. Not bashing them at all but a few refuse not to wait for the lengthy applications or registration process and just go AWOL once they enter.

[bomelia]

Venamm,

Phuck off. Do you know the difference between a personal attack and a difference of opinion? I have a difference of opinion with you. You use personal attacks. That is not looked upon nicely.

That ought to about do it for this thread.

Mike

[427 S/O]

Don't think for a minute their lawmakers decided on their own to just up and passed this law. The citizens of Colorado made it known their demands..period


Colorado HB 1023--a new and tough anti-illegal-immigration law in Colorado--will require tens of thousands in Colorado to prove they are legal residents before receiving certain government services. The new law, passed this month, is the toughest in the country.

This, I hope, will spread....

[bomelia]

Me too Perry.

I am so tired of being called ugly things because I want illegal immigration halted. 12 million just from Mexico!! Maybe a blip on the radar at 3%... but with chain migration, that could turn into 100 million or 28% essentially overnight. The political, socio-economic implications are enormous. Lets just cut to the chase. Who stands to gain the most politically? But what the politicians just do not seem to understand is that the people WANT control of the borders. Me? I am not opposed to sending 12 million illegals back to where they came from. I am sick of the argument that that cannot realistically be done. What really is meant is that it is politically undesirable.
Both parties would suffer from that but for different reasons.

So our salad and oranges cost more. Who cares? My gas is up 200-300% over the last few years. These artificially depressed prices have severe implications for the future when the dam busts, just like it did for gasoline.

So build the fence. Halelooyah! (proper spelling is frowned upon by proper Christians). I'm still sending funds to the minute men and fence project.

Oh, and as the pressure builds on illegals, watch what happens when they start pouring into the other country north of us.

Mike

[Scott S]

Bo,

I was thinking about this for some time now, what would happen to the home markets if all of a sudden there were all the empty house and apartments left by a full deportation such as you would like?

Scott S

[Venamm]

Originally Posted by bomelia

Venamm,

Phuck off. Do you know the difference between a personal attack and a difference of opinion? I have a difference of opinion with you. You use personal attacks. That is not looked upon nicely.

That ought to about do it for this thread.

Mike

Very classy opening line along with your avatar image for all our young readers. I rest my case.

Please do not try to gain popularity from thread readers. They are not dumb, the threads speak for them selves. Attacking my family name, my country and name calling is a "difference of opinion" and not a direct personal attack?......sorry I have to laugh...lmao. Please leave me a lone.

[Venamm]

Hey Folks,
It seems the deportation issue is driving the illegals running north.
A link from my community paper today!!

http://www.bramptonguardian.com/news/article/37395

[Ron61]

Scott,

Not to start an argument, but if they got rid of all the illegals the Govt. is bowing down to, maybe they could help some of our vets who are homeless have homes. They sure as he** deserve them more in my opinion than a bunch of illegals who get about anything they want it seems. Did you see the report on the homeless where a huge amount of them are returning vets. They go fight and get maimed and killed for us and the dam politicians turn their backs on them once they are not able to do any more. Even the Russians take care of their vets and they don't seem to have nearly the illegal problem that we do.

Ron

[imagine2frolic]

The empty houses, and apartments will be just another hurdle to cross to get our country back on track. We have been living to high on the hog, and now it is time to pay for it.

Most of this country has been on cloud nine, and now we are back on earth. It is the reality of it. The housing mess was a false economy. That's why we are tightening the belt around the waist now.

My apologies to our friend, and neighbors up north for the influx of ILLEGALS. We didn't hand them a road map with a compass. They just don't want to go home to their OWN extremely poor country.

Have many of you actually travelled, and or lived in Mexico? It is a beautiful country, and a very proud people. I travelled, and lived in Mexico on my first sailboat for 5 months. I did not do much of the tourist thing. I mostly travelled the coastline of Baja, and it gives a whole new meaning to DIRT POOR.

All the protesting, and complaining the ILLEGALS do here. They need to take that energy back home, and correct their own country. When the super rich there quit milking their own people of everything. They won't be so eager to come here.

I also lived with a Mexican woman for several years, and immersed myself into her family, and culture. What I saw, and experienced on how they felt about Americans, and America was not a good thing. I say send them home with a PHUKKING boot stuck up their ARSE!

[bomelia]

I do kind of wonder how much of a problem it wil be for Canada when the pressure begins to build here. And it is building! They sure as heck won't head back to Mexico. With Canada's heavy tax system, it seems to me there would be less ability to absorb them. But I am sure they will be willing to do it without complaint, it would give them an opportunity to prove how superior they are to us.

Scott, I do not know how to answer your question.

Mike

[427 S/O]

Banks are shutting their mortgage departments down, I know of three subdivisions (lots only) that will be on the auction block soon and many local sub-contractors are looking for work. Fella's, it's going to get bad next year. I'm not a fatalist by any means but, it's gonna happen. Hope you guys are prepared.

We probably won't need an immigration bill, they'll be heading home on their own...

[Venamm]

2 things we in Canada have that attract illegals and is a burden on our society:
1- Free health care, nobody is denied the right to live. Our constitution
2- No body should be denied food and a place to live also under our constitution.
Very rare we hear news about someone dieing outside homeless or starvation or the cold...
But we need to change these humanitarian issues to apply to citizens and our American neighbour's only. Illegals should not have these rights, because if that was the case we would not be so attractive to nomads pitching camp here. Our taxes really are not that bad in comparison to the quality of life. Speaking of which our crime used to be Nil until the influx of illegals.