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Old 02-27-2008, 08:22 PM
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Wes, I think you are talking about a "lock down" (not a "lockout") which is SOP as soon as a strike hits (check for sugar in forklift gas tanks, etc.)....

....During a lockout, employers hire temporary replacements to fill the jobs during the dispute...they keep operating. As for taking down and moving a plant...that falls under the WARN Act...a different scenario entirely.

I'm gonna see if I can get you guys Human Resource Certification credits for reading my posts.
Makes sense, Jamo. I'm not sure which term I originally heard now, lock down or lockout. The Bobcat plant would've actually been in a situation of lock down and it is my guess that the wrong term was commonly bandied about ...well, like I just did.

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:47 AM
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CobraBill Bill, Solar is going to be a 20 BILLION dollar profit to someone who can make solar panels. 2020 all new building in Cali must have solar systems for the home included in the build. Electric and heating. Bill Solar right now is the only thing except for DRUGS, that has a return of 15-18%. No stocks, bonds, tea bills, even oil. They have new panels out that look like shingles and film panels that are glued to steel roofs. The rebates are getting smaller but here they are to date, $2,000 from the feds. Every state is different some are at a 50% rebate, alot are dropping to the high 30% low 40%. NJ has used up the money already for the 08 year on rebates. Jan 04 08 it was all gone. 55% of Germany is running off solar, 18% of Japan is also using solar. The solar systems are good for 20-25 years on the panels and 8-12 years on the convertors. If you go tie in on the electric and have no battery backup this will save about 5-8 grand. You will have power even is the whole area is out for days, The solar will run the house inthe daytime and the batterys at night. COMMON SENSE is needed for this. I have done all the home work for my house, the problem is the 4 big trees that my grandfather planted in the back yard, 1 white oak,1 black walnut,1 red oak, 1 pin oak, 3 out of the 4 are in perfect health. The other has save the house from 2 lightning strikes. Yes I have rods on the roof. You can write off the solar system for 5 years on taxes. What's your electric bill per month? That money could go to pay for the monthly payments on the solar system. NO ELECTRIC BILL. The system is totally paided for in 6-7 1/2 years. If you build a system that makes more power than you need, you can get either green credits or a check back every year on electric you didn't use. There is no down side to this. How about heating your house? Do you have base board hot water, I do. For $13,000 I can build a solar system to heat the whole house. Heating oil was 3.89 per gallon 2 months ago. I need 400 gallons to get through the winter months. Again 6 years and the heating of the house is free. You have been brain washed into thinking that solar doesn't work or is not worth the time and money to do to your house. Solar homes also add about $15,000 - 18,000.00 dollars to resale of a home. You can also take it with you if you want. We already have solar farms in the southwest that make power in the 500KW. All you need is the sun. The government has not put a tax on this yet. Oil companies don't want you doing solar, they could loose billions. The economy of the USA is being held together by oil. Bill solar is no different than any aftermarket part you added to your car, weather it be suspension, motor, or safety, In the beginning all these things where po-poed and yet look at what is on your car today. Solar is the future. Rick L
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